Joe Calzaghe: "Hopkins a Racist, Got His Ass Kicked"

[mrlopez]

Lmao, at the Hopkins fan boys. Hopkins didn't want to go to the Uk and now his fan boys are saying the fight would be bigger in the UK, lol, Calzaghe beat Hopkins and no matter how many fighters Cal beats they'll still talk ****. And Cal would of beaten Pavlik worse then Hopkins did.

Ofcourse we'll talk **** about a fighter who took this long to fight over here...Hand pickin fighters in europe had a lot to do with his 20 defenses....You want recognition, you fight over here, everyone knows that....Hatton knows that, thats why he's stayed fighting over here and thats why he gets respect....

And Cal would of beaten Pavlik worse then Hopkins did???
Are you ****in serious?

He bareky beat Hop(and many ring observers and people in general including myself thought Slappy lost)He didnt have the balls to fight Pavlik. If he woulda beat Pavlik convincingly, i would have given him a ton of respect, but he chose to fight an old washed up jones.....no respect there.....

[JulioCesaChavez]

Honestly Hopkins look bad from the second half of that fight on and was very disappointing. However, Joe Calzaghe didn't look much better with all of his slapping. Thats what won him 2 out of three judges. After seeing Hopkins school the man Calzaghe was duckin (Pavlik) theres no doubt Hopkins would bring his A game in a victory rematch over Calzaghe. Joe doesn't want that because he saw what a focused Executioner can do.

exactly. PLus he got schooled the first time round. Joe is a bum and I reckon he will be calling out George Foreman or Larry Holmes so he can move up to heavyweight and get a paper title like Roy did V Ruiz. Joe is pathetic! HIs three bigggest wins were V old men. One was a robbery V B-Hop and another one was V a washed up fraud in Eubanks! This means the only great he has beaten clealry is the shadow of the shadow of Roy Jones.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

I guarantee if this Farce fights again it will be an easy payday with limited challenge! Dawson and the rest of the boxing world should forget about this guy and let him go away!

[Clegg]

Cause these people defend ***** actz. B-Hop got his rematch against Mercado, Mayweather got his rematch against JLC, Pac against JMM/EM and the list goes on. How could joe NOT possibly want a rematch on a fight people felt could have gone either way...With most experts and boxers saying Bernard Won or better YET!! Joe's country men saying it could have gone either way...

Bernard is willing to fight Calzaghe in his backyard...

No, most experts did not have Hopkins winning. Please stop being such a biased fanboy 24/7.

Hopkins fought Mercado in order to win the title. You're comparing a win/win scenario with a lose/lose scenario.

Some people thought that Wright-Hopkins could've gone either way, so by your logic Hopkins should've given him a rematch.

And JMM was offered a rematch with Pacquiao and ended up fighting Chris John for less money instead so...facts? Check them? Maybe?

[Chunk..]

What could Hopkins do to Joe in a rematch that he couldn't do in the first fight?

[Wrighty]

There is still ppl that say Hopkins won that fight, well they should be embarassed. He lay down twice and should have been given an 8 count for taking a knee. Calzaghe's preesure took Hopkins heart away and made him want to give up.

[FLY TY]

The first fight was terrible. No network would ever consider buying the rematch. The HBO rating for the April fight were terrible.

I have to agree here. It was painful to watch. Both guys should have had their purses held. It was like a Bones Adams-Kevin Kelley rematch.

2 ****** comments...in boxing, you're as good as your last fight. if the networks bought the roy jones-calzaghe fight, considering who roy jones has actually fought since the johnson and tarver debacles, they'll surely buy a hopkins-calzaghe rematch. in fact, all of you spewing this nonsense will watch too. this **** never amazes me. every1 says, "i'll never watch another hopkins fight." but everytime one come up, every1 is watching. considering the way hopkins beat pavlik, and calzaghe just beat jones, the networks would jump at a rematch....the only problem would be getting hopkins and calzaghe to agree on a purse split. seeing how calzaghe got the decision, it would be up to hopkins i guess to show how bad he wants the fight.....but its ridiculous to say no network would by the fight. the networks like NAMES, they dont buy fights based on ACTION. if that was the case, boxing would be more popular.....

A lot actually. First off the first time was hardly a duck. Hopkins wanted 3 million upstraight, not 1.5 which is what he would what he would have gotten with deductions and ****. Also Hopkins really had no reason to fight Calzaghe in the first place and the win would have been menningless because Calzaghe's best win was Eubank and he struggled with Reid.

If Hopkins would have beaten Calzaghe, one Calzaghe would have been forgotten and two Calzaghe struggled with Reid, so Hopkins wouldn't have gotten much credit anyway.

Hopkins really wanted a huge payday and was looking for someone who could give him that. Calzaghe's camp couldn't. Whether Hopkins priced himself out or not, that's not a duck.

At the same time I don't think Calzaghe ducked Johnson either, but anyway going back to the original "How many times did Hopkins call Calzaghe out after he ducked him"

He originally called him out for a fight at yankee stadium after the Winky fight. Then was calling out for him constantly when the fight wasn't signed still.

Now he's calling him out in Wales. What better way to finish off your career infront of your hometown, sliencing all the doubters, and then ride off to the sunset. Personally, if Calzaghe retires undefeated, that's fine, but he can't ***** about being racist and that's why he can't have a rematch.

Saying that Hopkins doesn't deserve a rematch though is pretty ******. It was a close competitive fight that a lot of people thought could go either way. Saying that Calzaghe won 9 rounds is ******. At the max he won 8, but It going 6-6 or 7-5 is fine.

Not only did Hopkins dismantle Pavlik, who was the big thing to beat Calzaghe (which I completely disagreed with for the record), but he's also dispatched Dawson's main victim's better then Dawson has himself! He also fought in a different style then had been fighting (Which was a lot closer to his boxer-puncher style). So it brings many new interesting questions to the rematch.

You could argue that the first fight was boring and that's why there shouldn't be one, but there having been many rematches that have happened that needed to happen, but the first fight wasn't that great.

agreed, except the calzaghe winning 8 or 7 rounds.....if you gave him 6, thats fine, cuz hopkins still wins based on the first round KD....... the only way calzaghe wins is for him to have gotten at least 8 rounds, which is crazy!!!

too bad he ended up making himself look like a punk, faking low blows and whut not. Joe made Hopkins look washed up. that's why so many people were picking Kel to beat him.

CD is the mando..Hops needs to beat him retire

joe didn't make hopkins look washed up.....the hopkins-wright fight before that was a snoozefest. in fact, ppl were calling for both to retire after that fight. judging by your comment, let me guess, joe looked great that night huh? GTFOH! quit huggin....

[deuce_drop]

joes stock drops in my book over this, his toughest fight to date, one which he got lucky in with the scoring, and he won't take a rematch??? why? he says it's because he won and that is it, but really i think he feels lucky to have got away with the win and knows deep down that another fight like that and he may very well lose. saying that he "kicked hopkins ass" is the biggest embellishment one cold sum up about their fight, their was no ass kicking in that fight from either man, and if one wanted to say someone got their ass whooped, i would say it was the guy who was knocked down and whos face was busted up in their fight, which oddly enough, wasn't hopkins, since joe was sooooo good. in the court of public opinion calzaghe lost that fight, had it not been for a knock down, i still would've had hopkins winning by a round and much of the press and people sitting ringside had hopkins winning the fight, even enzo thought that his son was losing!

besides all that mess, calzaghe should rematch hopkins, it's his toughest fight, it's a fight that everyone wants to see, hopkins beat pavlik and calzaghe beat roy, no one wants to see pavlik calzaghe, no one wants to see hopkins jones II, i personally think the same as cazlaghe when i say that dawson isnt ready for a fight with calzaghe, the only real fight other than a glenn johnson fight, which calzaghe would never entertain, is a rematch with hopkins, and hopkins, as all fighters wanting a piece of joe, is willing to go to wales for the fight, and calzaghe doesn't want a part of that??????

that would be a huge fight over there. besides, so calzaghe is going to retire after a long ass career of fighting in the same place, he's going to have his last fight abroad where his hometwon fans who have been there since day one with him, he's not going to have a final fight? a send off fight into retirement in front of his hometown??? that don't make sense.................his whole career of basically fighting in the same place and since this was, what? his 3rd fight outside of the uk????? he's now going to retire and not give a last performance in front of the home crowd, doesn't make sense, unless he's going to pick a complete cream puff to fight his final fight, one that isnt a risk at all, maybe manfredo will be available for his last fight, i think calzaghe would grant him a rematch before he did hopkins......calzaghe is so afraid of losing his undefeated record that it's completely controlling his decisions, instead of fighting the fights people want to see, and fights that need and should be, he's ***** footing around avoiding the massive PINK ELEPHANT in the room, which is bernard hopkins, and joes afraid to even look in that direction....................joe knows gift decision, lose, or draw, it's not fun at all to fight hopkins, at all..................if it were such an easy fight for joe, then it would've been a fight where everyone and their mother would say that hopkins lost, not just blind faith calzaghe fans, and we would've seen calzaghe act like a kid in dire need of attention with all his showboating like he did against an old roy jones jr who showed up for a paycheck..... because he wasn't able to do **** against hopkins and was in a real fight that he felt that he had to come from behind, that is why there was no dancing and acting like a fool against hopkins, because he was getting schooled, getting hit in between his wild inaccurate flurries, landing low, back of the head, arms and shoulders, wow, not even hurting hopkins or hitting him clean and getting his attention at least.............

joe should step it up and fight hopkins, but he's too worrried about his undefeated record.......
that is why i will always put Lennox Lewis over Calzaghe for best euro fighter, he avenged his losses and wasn't afraid to lose either, both losses by ko, both avenged by ko. it takes more of a man to go in and fight a guy that has already beat him, it takes more personal assessment and focus to conquer your victor. calzaghe wants to avoid the guy that came most close to giving him his first official loss (which was/is really a loss in the court of public opinion), instead of silencing his critics, from all over the world, not just Americans, but Brits too.....calzaghe is more afraid to lose the 0 than he is to fight the right fights.........................shame on him.....

[FLY TY]

No, most experts did not have Hopkins winning. Please stop being such a biased fanboy 24/7.

Hopkins fought Mercado in order to win the title. You're comparing a win/win scenario with a lose/lose scenario.

Some people thought that Wright-Hopkins could've gone either way, so by your logic Hopkins should've given him a rematch.

And JMM was offered a rematch with Pacquiao and ended up fighting Chris John for less money instead so...facts? Check them? Maybe?

hard to say a fight could've gone "either way" when the result was a UD, not a SD.......most ppl thought the hopkins calzaghe fight could've gone either way, cuz hopkins did more damage, but calzaghe made it "look" like he did.....actually "watch" fights when you watch them, and don't pay attention to commentators and crowd noise, and look at the guy who gets hit hardest.....

What could Hopkins do to Joe in a rematch that he couldn't do in the first fight?

easy. just throw more punches each round. thats what got joe the decision the first time. joe was more "active" i guess, tho he wasn't effective....

There is still ppl that say Hopkins won that fight, well they should be embarassed. He lay down twice and should have been given an 8 count for taking a knee. Calzaghe's preesure took Hopkins heart away and made him want to give up.

you don't get a standing 8 for taking a knee, when there's a low blow involved. whether or not it did as much damage as hopkins made it look is debatable....its clear he wanted the extra time to catch his breath....but when you get hit low, you get up to five minuntes to recoup......low blows are illegal, if the ref sees it, the person being hit usually isn't penalized for going down. tighten up.

[FLY TY]

joes stock drops in my book over this, his toughest fight to date, one which he got lucky in with the scoring, and he won't take a rematch??? why? he says it's because he won and that is it, but really i think he feels lucky to have got away with the win and knows deep down that another fight like that and he may very well lose. saying that he "kicked hopkins ass" is the biggest embellishment one cold sum up about their fight, their was no ass kicking in that fight from either man, and if one wanted to say someone got their ass whooped, i would say it was the guy who was knocked down and whos face was busted up in their fight, which oddly enough, wasn't hopkins, since joe was sooooo good. in the court of public opinion calzaghe lost that fight, had it not been for a knock down, i still would've had hopkins winning by a round and much of the press and people sitting ringside had hopkins winning the fight, even enzo thought that his son was losing!

besides all that mess, calzaghe should rematch hopkins, it's his toughest fight, it's a fight that everyone wants to see, hopkins beat pavlik and calzaghe beat roy, no one wants to see pavlik calzaghe, no one wants to see hopkins jones II, i personally think the same as cazlaghe when i say that dawson isnt ready for a fight with calzaghe, the only real fight other than a glenn johnson fight, which calzaghe would never entertain, is a rematch with hopkins, and hopkins, as all fighters wanting a piece of joe, is willing to go to wales for the fight, and calzaghe doesn't want a part of that??????

that would be a huge fight over there. besides, so calzaghe is going to retire after a long ass career of fighting in the same place, he's going to have his last fight abroad where his hometwon fans who have been there since day one with him, he's not going to have a final fight? a send off fight into retirement in front of his hometown??? that don't make sense.................his whole career of basically fighting in the same place and since this was, what? his 3rd fight outside of the uk????? he's now going to retire and not give a last performance in front of the home crowd, doesn't make sense, unless he's going to pick a complete cream puff to fight his final fight, one that isnt a risk at all, maybe manfredo will be available for his last fight, i think calzaghe would grant him a rematch before he did hopkins......calzaghe is so afraid of losing his undefeated record that it's completely controlling his decisions, instead of fighting the fights people want to see, and fights that need and should be, he's ***** footing around avoiding the massive PINK ELEPHANT in the room, which is bernard hopkins, and joes afraid to even look in that direction....................joe knows gift decision, lose, or draw, it's not fun at all to fight hopkins, at all..................if it were such an easy fight for joe, then it would've been a fight where everyone and their mother would say that hopkins lost, not just blind faith calzaghe fans, and we would've seen calzaghe act like a kid in dire need of attention with all his showboating like he did against an old roy jones jr who showed up for a paycheck..... because he wasn't able to do **** against hopkins and was in a real fight that he felt that he had to come from behind, that is why there was no dancing and acting like a fool against hopkins, because he was getting schooled, getting hit in between his wild inaccurate flurries, landing low, back of the head, arms and shoulders, wow, not even hurting hopkins or hitting him clean and getting his attention at least.............

joe should step it up and fight hopkins, but he's too worrried about his undefeated record.......
that is why i will always put Lennox Lewis over Calzaghe for best euro fighter, he avenged his losses and wasn't afraid to lose either, both losses by ko, both avenged by ko. it takes more of a man to go in and fight a guy that has already beat him, it takes more personal assessment and focus to conquer your victor. calzaghe wants to avoid the guy that came most close to giving him his first official loss (which was/is really a loss in the court of public opinion), instead of silencing his critics, from all over the world, not just Americans, but Brits too.....calzaghe is more afraid to lose the 0 than he is to fight the right fights.........................shame on him.....

not only would the hopkins rematch be his toughest fight, it makes him the most money too! i call that a no-brainer. joe's a ***** tho.......

if not hopkins, i'll give him props for fighting bad chad. its either retire, or fight one of those guys, anything else is questionable.