Calzaghe would've gotten his ass kicked if this was 8 years ago

[letsgobrady]

Calzaghe would beat Hopkins and Jones at any time
Roy was always an American hype job just like Mayweather
i give Bernard and De La Hoya credit but most Americans are overrated.

How do you know Calzaghe would of lost eight years ago ?
maybe Barrera and Morales would have knocked out Pacquiao six years back
and maybe Oscar would of dominated Mayweather four years ago

the fact is we will never know what might of happend
but we know what did happen... Roy Jones got a owned.

mayweather is never overrated, theres no one that you can name that can beat floyd mayweather

[bsrizpac]

Calzaghe would beat Hopkins and Jones at any time
Roy was always an American hype job just like Mayweather
i give Bernard and De La Hoya credit but most Americans are overrated.

How do you know Calzaghe would of lost eight years ago ?
maybe Barrera and Morales would have knocked out Pacquiao six years back
and maybe Oscar would of dominated Mayweather four years ago

the fact is we will never know what might of happend
but we know what did happen... Roy Jones got a owned.

Jesus christ the morons are out in force now. You fanboys are pathetic. Roy was shot. I called it over a year ago. ROY IS SHOT.

Nothing has changed from two weeks ago.

Grow up you **** talking fanboys

[Kris Silver]

He just beats up UK bums and old men you say?

The facts infact are he's beaten more Americans than any other nationality. He's often the older fighter in many of his fights, and when not they are still top contendors.

Ignorant.

[BKM-]

Ok, so the thread starter may have exaggerated a little(probably because the man has been very annoyed by the fanboys' party post fight) but some of you really need to educate yourselves a bit before you BLINDLY make bold comments.

JC would fall short against younger versions of RJJ and Hopkins(against this guy he'd get beaten 'without any trouble' being that he couldn't beat him at 43. Terrible style for Joe. He'd do better against RJJ.) I agree with that.

I said before the fight that if Roy doesn't have his legs anymore, he will definitely lose. Turns out that it was absolutely the case, and much more than that too. I should have watched his 3 fights before this one.

In his prime, Roy didn't just have ACCURACY and punches in bunches, he had extremely explosive legs that enabled him to have this great defense, could get into positions very quickly to capatilize on his opponents' mistakes, get himself out of corners with ease(even against Tarver he was seen doing this) get away with leaping hooks, his stamina was excellent, and most importantly, he had that mental edge and killer instinct.

Lets say he fought this version of Joe while he was 10 years younger. Calzaghe would get caught with a lot more unseen flush shots like he did from a near 40 year old man last night in the first round. His WIIIIDEEE looping shots, albeit quick, would hit nothing but air against Roys freakishly athletic ability to avoid punches. And like I mentioned earlier, it was impossible for anyone to to just load up on shots on Jones while having arms low like Joe did last night. Jones would actually get out of corners with a long leading jab, a quick long step shooting himself across the ring, out of the corner. OR, he would actually fight himself out of the ropes. You really have to watch more vintage Jones fights to see what i'm talking about here. I think some of you really forgot what he was about.

Yes, Calzaghe gave a great performance and beat him convincingly, but his fighting game was full of holes, like usual. I mean, at times he was blatantly just ****ing around in there, throwing combo's while Jones was on the ropes, and with him not thinking of defense at all while doing his fruity little movements..erm, 'showboating'. Don't get the wrong impression, take away all of the showboating nonsense, and just watch the fighting aspect of it, and it becomes clear that in their primes, Jones would have won with ease.

But I guess you won't get popular by saying it at a time like this. Don't mind it, act intelligent and explain it to them from a boxing point of view. Works every time.

[bsrizpac]

He just beats up UK bums and old men you say?

The facts infact are he's beaten more Americans than any other nationality. He's often the older fighter in many of his fights, and when not they are still top contendors.

Ignorant.

Yes, Most Joe fans are. And when did I say any of that crap?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Ok, so the thread starter may have exaggerated a little(probably because the man has been very annoyed by the fanboys' party post fight) but some of you really need to educate yourselves a bit before you BLINDLY make bold comments.

JC would fall short against younger versions of RJJ and Hopkins(against this guy he'd get beaten 'without any trouble' being that he couldn't beat him at 43. Terrible style for Joe. He'd do better against RJJ.) I agree with that.

I said before the fight that if Roy doesn't have his legs anymore, he will definitely lose. Turns out that it was absolutely the case, and much more than that too. I should have watched his 3 fights before this one.

In his prime, Roy didn't just have ACCURACY and punches in bunches, he had extremely explosive legs that enabled him to have this great defense, could get into positions very quickly to capatilize on his opponents' mistakes, get himself out of corners with ease(even against Tarver he was seen doing this) get away with leaping hooks, his stamina was excellent, and most importantly, he had that mental edge and killer instinct.

Lets say he fought this version of Joe while he was 10 years younger. Calzaghe would get caught with a lot more unseen flush shots like he did from a near 40 year old man last night in the first round. His WIIIIDEEE looping shots, albeit quick, would hit nothing but air against Roys freakishly athletic ability to avoid punches. And like I mentioned earlier, it was impossible for anyone to to just load up on shots on Jones while having arms low like Joe did last night. Jones would actually get out of corners with a long leading jab, a quick long step shooting himself across the ring, out of the corner. OR, he would actually fight himself out of the ropes. You really have to watch more vintage Jones fights to see what i'm talking about here. I think some of you really forgot what he was about.

Yes, Calzaghe gave a great performance and beat him convincingly, but his fighting game was full of holes, like usual. I mean, at times he was blatantly just ****ing around in there, throwing combo's while Jones was on the ropes, and with him not thinking of defense at all while doing his fruity little movements..erm, 'showboating'. Don't get the wrong impression, take away all of the showboating nonsense, and just watch the fighting aspect of it, and it becomes clear that in their primes, Jones would have won with ease.

But I guess you won't get popular by saying it at a time like this. Don't mind it, act intelligent and explain it to them from a boxing point of view. Works every time.

You do realize that Joe isn't in his prime either right?

or are you just going to totally ignore that?


Once again folks, what we have here is another tirade about how Jones would have and could have done this or that in his prime all while failing to mention that the fighters who bested Roy Jones Jr. weren't in their primes either.

Disgustingly stannish on your part.

[Clegg]

Ok, so the thread starter may have exaggerated a little(probably because the man has been very annoyed by the fanboys' party post fight)

No, maybe that fits in with your pre-existing bias, but the fact is that this thread was posted before any post-fight thread praising Calzaghe.

[BKM-]

You do realize that Joe isn't in his prime either right?

or are you just going to totally ignore that?


Once again folks, what we have here is another tirade about how Jones would have and could have done this or that in his prime all while failing to mention that the fighters who bested Roy Jones Jr. weren't in their primes either.

Disgustingly stannish on your part.

"stannish"? I suppose saying Calzaghe would have beaten PRIME RJJ based on last night isn't far stretched?

Tell me what was so diffirent about Calzaghe before this. This is the kind of fighter that ages very well. I think i'm gonna vomit the next time I hear someone say "Jones is only 2 years older than Joe". EVery fighter ages diffirently, peaks at a diffirent time and declines at a diffirent time. Joe is really not that old and I haven't seen anything that would suggest that he is declining physically, and if anything he is much better technically.

Good job of ignoring the rest. Tarver was in his prime. Johnson was like B-hop, older physically but better technically. JC is pretty much in his prime.

[BKM-]

No, maybe that fits in with your pre-existing bias, but the fact is that this thread was posted before any post-fight thread praising Calzaghe.

Right, I wasn't aware of that. In that case i'm not here to defend the thread starter.

[Vasyl’s dad]

"stannish"? I suppose saying Calzaghe would have beaten PRIME RJJ based on last night isn't far stretched?

Tell me what was so diffirent about Calzaghe before this. This is the kind of fighter that ages very well. I think i'm gonna vomit the next time I hear someone say "Jones is only 2 years older than Joe". EVery fighter ages diffirently, peaks at a diffirent time and declines at a diffirent time. Joe is really not that old and I haven't seen anything that would suggest that he is declining physically, and if anything he is much better technically.

Good job of ignoring the rest. Tarver was in his prime. Johnson was like B-hop, older physically but better technically. JC is pretty much in his prime.

So you're going to sit here and tell me that men who are in their mid 30s have the same speed and reflexes that they do in their mid to late 20s?


If Jones at 35 and beyond wasn't in his prime, neither are any of the fighters who are pretty much the same age.

If you want to go the route of saying Jones had a longer career and suffered through wear and tear, try it.

For years Jones was known as someone who rarely if ever was touched cleanly. How much damage could he have suffered if he was rarely hit flush?


None of these fighters were or are in their primes at the time of beating Jones, Tarver, Johnson or Calzaghe.