New Ring Ratings: Darchinyan not in top 10 P4P

[Kris Silver]

Paul Williams should not be on the list, period. He's another guy with an impressive recent win that seems to have impressed too much to get them so high. To be honest I wonder why when Hatton was top ten, and lost to the p4p #1 he shot out of the top 10 list. Cotto and PW's have lost to guys lower ranked and stayed in there. I know it's not just about that but there seems to be a lack of consistency sometimes, it's arguable none of them deserve to be top 10.

[S.G.]

neither Darch nor P Williams should be there IMO

[Googler]

Hey guys tell me this. Why is Ivan Calderon on the P4P list? Its all boxing politics. You have to pay a subscription fee to hoya for your name to be on the list!!!

[ANDROID_DOES]

ok so who on Vic's resume makes him look solid besides Mijares?

dude ernie he avoids ALL your questions!

[KJB]

vic needs anoter good win over atop guy, and he gets on. williams should not be on imo, yet.

I think its a bit pre mature as well, but there is a decent argument for it. Williams holds wins at WW over top guys, hes easily the number 2 guy in one of the deepest divisions in the world. Taking tune ups and MW doesnt hurt his P4P standing.
If he does as well against Verno Phillips as I expect him to, his ranking will be justified.

[Googler]

dude ernie he avoids ALL your questions!

Dmitri Kirilov
Irene Pacheco
Z Gorres

All three of these guys make him look solid! Any more questions?

[Eaner0919]

Dmitri Kirilov
Irene Pacheco
Z Gorres

All three of these guys make him look solid! Any more questions?

ok let's take a closer look

Kirilov- you mean the same fighter who had a draw with of all people Cecilio Santos one fight prior, won a close (some say hometown) decision to Jose Navarro despite knocking down Navarro (who Mijares beat pretty soundly), and a loss to Luis Perez who is now on a two fight losing streak? Kirilov is ok but his skills have left him a bit and doesn't have that one punch to make up for his declining skills to hide it

Gorres- really? short of Glenn Donaire (not Nonito mind you) what has he done to warrant being considered solid? He had a draw with Montiel that was said to be controversial a win over Eric Ortiz who IMO was ruined by Viloria and well thats about it

Pacheco- ah yes probably Vic's best win aside from Mijares. If I am not mistaked wasn't this the fight where Irene had Vic hurt and the smoke delayed the fight for about 10 minutes allowing Vic to get some time to recover? This a guy who had a long reign as champ by facing the likes of Makepula (KO'd by Arce in 4), Alejandro Montiel (not Fernando) who was in the midst of losing 4 out of his last five, before he faced Vic. Gets ruined by Jhonny Gonzalez in his last fight.

question still stands

[ANDROID_DOES]

ok let's take a closer look

Kirilov- you mean the same fighter who had a draw with of all people Cecilio Santos one fight prior, won a close (some say hometown) decision to Jose Navarro despite knocking down Navarro (who Mijares beat pretty soundly), and a loss to Luis Perez who is now on a two fight losing streak? Kirilov is ok but his skills have left him a bit and doesn't have that one punch to make up for his declining skills to hide it

Gorres- really? short of Glenn Donaire (not Nonito mind you) what has he done to warrant being considered solid? He had a draw with Montiel that was said to be controversial a win over Eric Ortiz who IMO was ruined by Viloria and well thats about it

Pacheco- ah yes probably Vic's best win aside from Mijares. If I am not mistaked wasn't this the fight where Irene had Vic hurt and the smoke delayed the fight for about 10 minutes allowing Vic to get some time to recover? This a guy who had a long reign as champ by facing the likes of Makepula (KO'd by Arce in 4), Alejandro Montiel (not Fernando) who was in the midst of losing 4 out of his last five, before he faced Vic. Gets ruined by Jhonny Gonzalez in his last fight.

question still stands

yes this should have been vics first lost. In a back and forth fight with Vic no doubt was getting the worse of it and hurt badly numerous times, those ****** fireworks screwed up the whole fight. Vic was sitting on his stool with nothing left. That break couldn't have helped vic anymore in that fight while on the other hand the break broke pacheco's rythm and he looked very cold when the action begun. Without that long break due to the smoke vic losses that fight, and it's easily arguable that vic gets stopped.

[MELLY-MEL...]

ok let's take a closer look

Kirilov- you mean the same fighter who had a draw with of all people Cecilio Santos one fight prior, won a close (some say hometown) decision to Jose Navarro despite knocking down Navarro (who Mijares beat pretty soundly), and a loss to Luis Perez who is now on a two fight losing streak? Kirilov is ok but his skills have left him a bit and doesn't have that one punch to make up for his declining skills to hide it

Gorres- really? short of Glenn Donaire (not Nonito mind you) what has he done to warrant being considered solid? He had a draw with Montiel that was said to be controversial a win over Eric Ortiz who IMO was ruined by Viloria and well thats about it

Pacheco- ah yes probably Vic's best win aside from Mijares. If I am not mistaked wasn't this the fight where Irene had Vic hurt and the smoke delayed the fight for about 10 minutes allowing Vic to get some time to recover? This a guy who had a long reign as champ by facing the likes of Makepula (KO'd by Arce in 4), Alejandro Montiel (not Fernando) who was in the midst of losing 4 out of his last five, before he faced Vic. Gets ruined by Jhonny Gonzalez in his last fight.

question still stands

good post man.

[ragingvic]

ok let's take a closer look

Kirilov- you mean the same fighter who had a draw with of all people Cecilio Santos one fight prior, won a close (some say hometown) decision to Jose Navarro despite knocking down Navarro (who Mijares beat pretty soundly), and a loss to Luis Perez who is now on a two fight losing streak? Kirilov is ok but his skills have left him a bit and doesn't have that one punch to make up for his declining skills to hide it

Gorres- really? short of Glenn Donaire (not Nonito mind you) what has he done to warrant being considered solid? He had a draw with Montiel that was said to be controversial a win over Eric Ortiz who IMO was ruined by Viloria and well thats about it

Pacheco- ah yes probably Vic's best win aside from Mijares. If I am not mistaked wasn't this the fight where Irene had Vic hurt and the smoke delayed the fight for about 10 minutes allowing Vic to get some time to recover? This a guy who had a long reign as champ by facing the likes of Makepula (KO'd by Arce in 4), Alejandro Montiel (not Fernando) who was in the midst of losing 4 out of his last five, before he faced Vic. Gets ruined by Jhonny Gonzalez in his last fight.

question still stands

You can do this with any fighter. These guys were and are still considerd to be among the best in the divison and vic had dominationg wins over them. Not to mention Mijares has long been regarded as the top dawg in the divisona and a p4per. Pacheco and vic was close, but to argue that vic wouldnt ko his ass if it wasnt for the fireworks is reaching for bubbles and that is all your doing here. If you dont like biased posters thats one thing, but to try and downplay vics pretty damw good resume makes you one also.