Calzaghe SMW greatest of all time?

[BLOODGOD]

No, Sven Ottke is not the second best 168 pounder of all time. The only things that Calzaghe and Ottke have in common is that they are undefeated and European.

Ottke just sat at home with his corrupt judges and got gift after gift against above average fighters or scraping his way to decisions against ordinary fighters.

Calzaghe has unified the division and beaten two young, prime and hungry champions along the way. He has also compiled a resume with some other respectable names on it

My question was never answered ! What they all had in common is they all fought no one ! But yet they made a ton of defenses ! Ottke didn't he retire undeafeated at super middleweight ! but he is considered ! Yet Calslappy fought a slightly better competition ! Kessler who has he fought ? Lacy who ?
You said respectable names ! Lets hear them ? Eubank ! Please another past his prime fighter ! While during most of his career he was a Warren protected fighter carefully matched ! To me you showed the old double standard ! Your going by title defense and record ! So why not Ottke ? Didn't he retire undefeated and had alot of title defenses ! As for your remark about Virgil samething he had something like 15 defense in like 2 different reigns ! Would you consider him one of the greatest ?

The point is yes this is a weak division so we have to bend a little ! Most fighters are ranked on their skill and who they fought during there primes and some were good at multiple weight classes ! Toney made I believe 6 defenses at SMW so that right there is enough ! A 168 Toney beats a 168 Calslappy !
Nigel Benn made 10 defenses at SMW I think he would've beat Calslappy during Benns prime there ! Another point Hopkins has the most middleweight defenses is he the best middleweight ? No ! of course Robinson is the one universally known to hold the top spot ! I mean if your gonna rank Calslappy on his accomplishments at 168 ! You might as well put Ottke second ! He also had a ton of defenses and he retired undefeated !

Sven Ottke won his fights in GERMANY.... No wonder his undefeated... You know what i mean?

[Fearless BONG]

I dont think so because as of now there's a lot of tought fight to be put in the SMW

If JC beat Jermain Taylor, and Kelly Palvik at SMW division.

[ReadyUp]

He could def make a case for it.

Had James and Roy stayed around, I don't think we would have to ask this question.

But he stayed as they moved up and ruled it perfectly. So I could go either way on this.

[Pugilistic™]

accomplishment wise....yes he is.

he would lose to prime Jones at 168

[Kris Silver]

Anyone who says he isn't the best ever SMW deserves no credibility.

List whose better and why.

Even Nigel Benn admitted Calzaghe would beat him and is the best SMW.

[BLOODGOD]

Anyone who says he isn't the best ever SMW deserves no credibility.

List whose better and why.

Even Nigel Benn admitted Calzaghe would beat him and is the best SMW.

Can you tell me who your source and any link would be perfect...

[mitch12]

why do people maon about fanboys on here yet at the same time they hate fighters themselfs there no better in my opinion.

[mitch12]

look i dont care for calzaghes resume i care for the boxers boxing abilily and hes up there with the best fighters pity his hands are ****ed now thought.

[mitch12]

No, Sven Ottke is not the second best 168 pounder of all time. The only things that Calzaghe and Ottke have in common is that they are undefeated and European.

Ottke just sat at home with his corrupt judges and got gift after gift against above average fighters or scraping his way to decisions against ordinary fighters.

Calzaghe has unified the division and beaten two young, prime and hungry champions along the way. He has also compiled a resume with some other respectable names on it.

I am not saying that Calzaghe is not overrated, because he is. I am not saying he would beat a prime Toney or Roy Jones at 168, because he wouldn't. What I am saying is that nobody has ever fought at 168 for long enough or against the quality of opposition necessary to be considered greater in the division that he is.

It really is not even a debatable concept.

well Toney is overrated to i mean he got easily beat by roy jones

[ATFsven]

He is the best SMW ever. nobody has come close!