Here is the rules that matter in the bute fight!!!!!!!

[STEELHEAD]

and since no one else has mentioned look at that idiot B.Wrong getting in the way and breaking them up to save butte...
pathetic!

[Ray Ray]

it was pretty one sided affair in the sense that Bute was effectively boxing Andrade for most of the fight, but you could see how bias the ref was allowing Bute to hold a lot and then breaking them up at times where Bute might be in trouble. Small things such as that. The fight carried into the championship rounds and Bute was visibly exhausted from all the movement he had to utilize to keep Andrade away and Andrade was starting to catch Bute more and more. The 12th round had Andrade going for a KO catching and knocking Bute silly a couple of times.

People want to compare the final round to the Chavez/Taylor fight using that as an example of how the fight ended correctly. The differences are immense though as Bute was out on his feet for about the last 40 seconds of the fight. Dude was a rag doll. He was the walking dead, his body swaying from side to side, holding on for dear life. Most impartial refs would have stopped the fight during this time, but the fight was not interrupted, as a matter of fact, if you watch Bute at about 10 seconds, dude is walking backwards as if he's about to fall THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE RING untill he is caught by the ropes. Andrade finally caught Bute and took him down. Bute looked as if he didn't know where he was. The ref started the count and you can see Librado go to the other end of the ring, ref got up to like 6, then turns around and tells Librado to go back to his corner, then goes back to Bute begins to count again, Bute gets up slowly AND LEANS ON THE ROPES, doesnt STAND by himself, he LEANS on the ropes and the ref is asking him if he's ok, NEVER asked him to walk forward because he knew Bute wouldn't have been able to, moves away and the bell rings.



Now the difference between the Chaves/Taylor fight is that the ref CORRECTLY deemed Taylor not able to fight after asking him if he can continue and Taylor not responding. Regardless of the amount of time left on the clock, Taylor was no longer able to continue and if the ref would have allowed him to do so, that would have shown bias for him.

If the fight truly would have gone Chavez/Taylor, then the ref would have stopped the fight because Bute OBVIOUSLY was in no shape to fight anymore which would have been the correct call.

Damn thats a good break down...So from the sounds of things...Bute got a home-cooked decision? Damn when are boxing organizations are going to put their foot down on bull**** like this...From the sounds and the looks of things yet another fighter was fucked out of his hard-earned victory!

**** is pathetic if you ask me!

Green K your way...I appreciate you taking the time for this break down!

[Stickman]

Damn thats a good break down...So from the sounds of things...Bute got a home-cooked decision? Damn when are boxing organizations are going to put their foot down on bull**** like this...From the sounds and the looks of things yet another fighter was fucked out of his hard-earned victory!

**** is pathetic if you ask me!

Green K your way...I appreciate you taking the time for this break down!

No, the decision was fair, as far as the scores. He was easily the better boxer, but didn't have the conditioning that Andrade had, and since he couldn't put Andrade down, and gassed himself, he was in trouble in the 12th. If it'd been fair, Andrade probably would've gotten him in trouble the previous round, or earlier in the 12th and got the TKO, but the ref was very protective of Bute....not Bute's fault at all, but this will be a stain on his record, nevertheless.

[2501]

No, the decision was fair, as far as the scores. He was easily the better boxer, but didn't have the conditioning that Andrade had, and since he couldn't put Andrade down, and gassed himself, he was in trouble in the 12th. If it'd been fair, Andrade probably would've gotten him in trouble the previous round, or earlier in the 12th and got the TKO, but the ref was very protective of Bute....not Bute's fault at all, but this will be a stain on his record, nevertheless.

yeah, the cards were right. Bute pretty much schooled him, but this is boxing right? where no fight is won until the final bell rings. Anything can happen. Regardless of what the cards were, the ref played a major part in sculpting what the outcome would be and thats just wrong. But whatever. the world and even Bute's own newspaper know whats up.

[ACHlLLES]

Andrade needs to fire his trainers... Idiot trainers teach him to only go for the ko and not try to win rounds... Idiots. Andrade was completely outclassed by Kessler for the same damn reason he was by bute, the guys offense sucks.

He is actually not a bad inside fighter, but he needs to learn to set punches up with the jab. He needs new trainers, he is wasting his money and his time with the ****ty trainers he has. He should hire anne wolf since she has more balls then the guys training andrade.

[2501]

Andrade needs to fire his trainers... Idiot trainers teach him to only go for the ko and not try to win rounds... Idiots. Andrade was completely outclassed by Kessler for the same damn reason he was by bute, the guys offense sucks.

He is actually not a bad inside fighter, but he needs to learn to set punches up with the jab. He needs new trainers, he is wasting his money and his time with the ****ty trainers he has. He should hire anne wolf since she has more balls then the guys training andrade.

he doesnt have the skill set to box and win rounds. ****, his trainers even admitted that he can't hit the pads. But he CAN work hard and get his guy out of there. And he basically did that. Unfortunately, the ref was looking out for his opponent.

[Ray*]

I seriously dont see anything wrong with this fight apart from the referee acting all ******/dumb, Andrade didnt have enough time to KO bute simple as that, If the fight was stopped earlier on then fine but not in the end when the fighter was on his feet.

[ACHlLLES]

I seriously dont see anything wrong with this fight apart from the referee acting all ******/dumb, Andrade didnt have enough time to KO bute simple as that, If the fight was stopped earlier on then fine but not in the end when the fighter was on his feet.

That is what I think too, but people here keep attacking what I have to say so I stopped saying that awhile ago. Also, bute wasn't out of it like people thought. You can see right before the bell rings in the gif image that bute is about to get right back into the fight by moving forward. Was he hurt? No doubt, but he did beat the count.

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[STEELHEAD]

in post interview with the reff B.Wrong he even said butte would have lost if andrade would have stayed in neutral corner.
the guys a half wit!

[2501]

I seriously dont see anything wrong with this fight apart from the referee acting all ******/dumb, Andrade didnt have enough time to KO bute simple as that, If the fight was stopped earlier on then fine but not in the end when the fighter was on his feet.

So you see nothing wrong with the ref influencing the fight? Can it not be argued that if the ref truly would had been impartial for the ENTIRE fight, the possibility of a KO before the 12th round was viable? And BECAUSE that can actually be argued, the argument that Andrade was wronged is valid?

The only thing that should influence a fight absolutely is both fighters. The ref is an instrument of impartiality and regulation of the fight, not the fighters or fighter.

Tim Donaghy's influence on the games that he reffed in the NBA was of no consequence?