Here is the rules that matter in the bute fight!!!!!!!

[mellow_mood]

does anyone has a vid?

[ferocity]

check it out on youtube

[The Texican]

It was gonna end in contoversy regardless, right. The thing is, you can end in controversy with the right decision and the right thing to do, or end in controversy with the wrong decision. Clearly the wrong decision was made and rules were bent in favor of the fighter who needed help back to his corner. It's not the last man leaning, it's the last man standing.

[2501]

Trouble is that if he was stopped seconds from the end of the fight while he was on his feet there would be just as much controversy...

but it would had been the right call. whether it is controversial or not is not the issue, it's about following the rules and making the right call. Andrade lost the fight because the ref was blatantly favoring his opponent when he gets paid to be impartial.

[Ray Ray]

I'm in the dark on this match up...Who actually won the fight? I missed it this past weekend because I had to work...Can someone please give a brief summary on what happened...thanks in advance!

[Stickman]

I'm in the dark on this match up...Who actually won the fight? I missed it this past weekend because I had to work...Can someone please give a brief summary on what happened...thanks in advance!

Bute took a UD, but he was out on his feet the last 30 seconds of the 12th, but the ref refused to allow him to lose. Very biased ref, Andrade deserved the win, worked for the entire fight to get to that point, and was screwed out of it.

[Taranazan]

I'm in the dark on this match up...Who actually won the fight? I missed it this past weekend because I had to work...Can someone please give a brief summary on what happened...thanks in advance!

Bute won.

BTW, the rules mentionned in the first post aren't the only ones to matter.
You forgot the rule #6, which say that when a fighter is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell (after that the timekeeper hits the canvas at 10 seconds of the end), he just have to raise, not to be ready to fight. I've said it in a few threads since the fight, but no one answered me with a legitimate counter-argument... I'd be glad to hear it and have a real and constructive discussion about that.

[Ray Ray]

Bute took a UD, but he was out on his feet the last 30 seconds of the 12th, but the ref refused to allow him to lose. Very biased ref, Andrade deserved the win, worked for the entire fight to get to that point, and was screwed out of it.

Damn..that gotta suck! I hate to hear about stuff like this...This type of bull**** takes away from the sport we love. Andrade needs to push for a rematch.

I appreciate you giving me that summary! green k coming!

[Ray Ray]

Bute won.

BTW, the rules mentionned in the first post aren't the only ones to matter.
You forgot the rule #6, which say that when a fighter is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell (after that the timekeeper hits the canvas at 10 seconds of the end), he just have to raise, not to be ready to fight. I've said it in a few threads since the fight, but no one answered me with a legitimate counter-argument... I'd be glad to hear it and have a real and constructive discussion about that.

Green K coming your way!

[2501]

I'm in the dark on this match up...Who actually won the fight? I missed it this past weekend because I had to work...Can someone please give a brief summary on what happened...thanks in advance!

it was pretty one sided affair in the sense that Bute was effectively boxing Andrade for most of the fight, but you could see how bias the ref was allowing Bute to hold a lot and then breaking them up at times where Bute might be in trouble. Small things such as that. The fight carried into the championship rounds and Bute was visibly exhausted from all the movement he had to utilize to keep Andrade away and Andrade was starting to catch Bute more and more. The 12th round had Andrade going for a KO catching and knocking Bute silly a couple of times.

People want to compare the final round to the Chavez/Taylor fight using that as an example of how the fight ended correctly. The differences are immense though as Bute was out on his feet for about the last 40 seconds of the fight. Dude was a rag doll. He was the walking dead, his body swaying from side to side, holding on for dear life. Most impartial refs would have stopped the fight during this time, but the fight was not interrupted, as a matter of fact, if you watch Bute at about 10 seconds, dude is walking backwards as if he's about to fall THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE RING untill he is caught by the ropes. Andrade finally caught Bute and took him down. Bute looked as if he didn't know where he was. The ref started the count and you can see Librado go to the other end of the ring, ref got up to like 6, then turns around and tells Librado to go back to his corner, then goes back to Bute begins to count again, Bute gets up slowly AND LEANS ON THE ROPES, doesnt STAND by himself, he LEANS on the ropes and the ref is asking him if he's ok, NEVER asked him to walk forward because he knew Bute wouldn't have been able to, moves away and the bell rings.



Now the difference between the Chaves/Taylor fight is that the ref CORRECTLY deemed Taylor not able to fight after asking him if he can continue and Taylor not responding. Regardless of the amount of time left on the clock, Taylor was no longer able to continue and if the ref would have allowed him to do so, that would have shown bias for him.

If the fight truly would have gone Chavez/Taylor, then the ref would have stopped the fight because Bute OBVIOUSLY was in no shape to fight anymore which would have been the correct call.