If RJJ beats JC, does he move onto the P4P list?

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  • hishaam15
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    #21
    Beatin the Arguably p4p best around today definitely grants you a spot...

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    • hishaam15
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      #22
      Originally posted by jpeck
      I can sorta agree with this, but it depends on whose p4p list you're going by. If you're putting a new guy in the top ten, then you're moving someone else out. Here is Ring Magazine's p4p right now. Who would you displace off of this list?

      1 MANNY PACQUIAO
      2 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
      3 JOE CALZAGHE
      4 BERNARD HOPKINS
      5 ISRAEL VAZQUEZ
      6 ANTONIO MARGARITO
      7 CRISTIAN MIJARES
      8 RAFAEL MARQUEZ
      9 MIGUEL COTTO
      10 IVAN CALDERON


      well joe calzaghe OBVIOUSLY!

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        #23
        Absolutly without question.
        You beat the number 2, with his resume, your on the ****ing list.
        Number 6 is Margarito for god's sakes.

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        • roundingace
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          #24
          My only issue with people saying if you beat a number 2 p4p then you should be granted a spot, is what happens when ODLH beats Pac? Given he is #1 and it's a joke fight, will Oscar be top 3-5? We all know he is definitely not a top 3-5 P4P anymore so that logic is hard for me to grasp.

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            #25
            Originally posted by jpeck
            I can sorta agree with this, but it depends on whose p4p list you're going by. If you're putting a new guy in the top ten, then you're moving someone else out. Here is Ring Magazine's p4p right now. Who would you displace off of this list?

            1 MANNY PACQUIAO
            2 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
            3 JOE CALZAGHE
            4 BERNARD HOPKINS
            5 ISRAEL VAZQUEZ
            6 ANTONIO MARGARITO
            7 CRISTIAN MIJARES
            8 RAFAEL MARQUEZ
            9 MIGUEL COTTO
            10 IVAN CALDERON
            Cotto, Calderon, and Rafa are all easily displaced, seeing as Rafa lost his last two fights, Cotto just suffered a knockout loss, and Calderon, while a great boxer, has not faced top ten p4p opposition.

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            • PoetryInMotion
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              #26
              Originally posted by SkilledBoxer
              i dont see why he wouldn't

              he's gonna beat the disputed P4P #1 right now(depends if u love him or hate him)
              So does DLH get on the list if he beats Pac?? Then you gotta take two guys off the current list. Tricky stuff, I dont like how 1 win or lose can put you on or bump you off the list, but hey who am I.

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              • Joe2608
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                #27
                I don't think he should get to be top 5, sure he beat the #2 guy but the pound for pound list for me isn't about winning one big fight it's about being consistent and making yourself look like P4P material by beating the best over and over and proving you are a force to be reckoned with. RJJ, while being one of my favourite boxers of all time, has not done that and has faced lackluster competition for a long time.

                For me he would creep onto the list at 10, 9 or 8. It depends how he defeats Calzaghe ultimatley. If he knocks out Calzaghe i would put him top 5 but i can't see that happening.

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                • hishaam15
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by R.I.P. Corrales
                  So does DLH get on the list if he beats Pac?? Then you gotta take two guys off the current list. Tricky stuff, I dont like how 1 win or lose can put you on or bump you off the list, but hey who am I.
                  pac will still stay number 1 if DLH beats him, i think the experts know that

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                  • Chuckguy
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by roundingace
                    Those who think he will not make it back on the top 10, please explain. This isn't a bash you thread if you disagree, I would just like to see the logic behind it.
                    I dont think he would cause he isnt even the best at his weight. If he wins its cause he has the tools to beat joe but he cant even beat a tarver or johnson if they were to fight again so no he shouldnt be in the p4p. Plus Joe shouldnt really be that high up either.
                    Jones is gonna beat an average joe.
                    hahahha

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by roundingace
                      Before losing to Tarver in the rematch, few had anyone ranked higher P4P than RJJ. He loses back to back KO's so he arguably gets booted off the list. BUT - should he beat Calzaghe, that would be 4-0 in his comebacks since losing those two. A for sure HOF'er in Tito and the undefeated JC? What do you guys think. IMO he goes to at least top 5, I'm not sure where I would put him, but he would be up there.
                      not so fast.

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