Hopkins performance was a tribute to Joe Calzaghe

[S A M U R A I]

Didn't Hopkins get his old trainer back in last nights fight?

And yea, Calzaghe is a coward he would never rematch Hopkins. This is why Hopkins is so awesome..he fights anyone at anytime.

Woah -- stop right there. Hopkins ducked Calzaghe in 2002 by pricing himself out of a fight he'd already agreed to, 3 days before the contract was due to be signed. FACT.

Calzaghe has been calling out Hopkins since about 7 years ago. I have video evidence.

Your bias is showing, and it's pretty transparent.

And yes, Hops got his old trainer back, ****m Richardson, for last night's fight. ****m had a stroke and recovered. Now he's back in the mix.



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[Pullcounter]

Thankyou

Radical. Who'd have thought. Someone won one fight and lost another, because of the style matchups and events in the ring, paritularly from the opponent. What a concept.

depends on which hopkins shows up.

[RisAri0]

it's plainly obvious that there were 2 different hopkins albeit, facing 2 different fighters. Hopkins could've easily potshotted Pavlik in the same way that he tried to potshot Calzaghe. What changed was Hopkins has changed his style form a potshotter back to a boxer that actually throws combinations.

You gotta look at the fact that who B-Hop fights. There's a reason why Bernard TRIED to potshot Calzaghe. He saw something he couldn't commit to wen fighting Joe. Calzaghe is no Pavlik, Trinidad, Tarver, Winky. His footwork may not look good, but its unorthodox as hell.

[Pullcounter]

Sorry mate i was referring to Pullcounter, claiming that Pavlik didn't go down, whilst Joe did, therefore somehow Pavlik > Joe. It's what he was insinuating.



Well yere it has, you posted something ridiculous I challenged it.

You really are clutching at straws mate if all you can say is Pavlik stayed on his feet LOL

I never claimed that Pavlik > Calzaghe. if you check all my post on the subject I've always said that I think cAlzaghe would beat pavlik.

stick to boxing please.

[Pullcounter]

If there ever was a time to hold your hands up and say, you was right. This is it.

I ain't Joe's biggest fan but the ****er is good at what he does. Watching Hopkins - Pavlik just illustrates that. Joe wasn't at his best against Hopkins but still won, and Hopkins goes and does that to Pavlik!?! I know styles make fights but ****ing hell!

good point, but that was a different Hopkins that fought Calzaghe.

[Pullcounter]

Would be interesting, too Risky for Joe though, not worth it at this stage of his career. It was already mighty close, and Hopkins would only improve imo.

I agree, it would mean that Calzaghe would have to nut up for a rematch.

[KingArthur]

Woah -- stop right there. Hopkins ducked Calzaghe in 2002 by pricing himself out of a fight he'd already agreed to, 3 days before the contract was due to be signed. FACT.

Calzaghe has been calling out Hopkins since about 7 years ago. I have video evidence.

Your bias is showing, and it's pretty transparent.

And yes, Hops got his old trainer back, ****m Richardson, for last night's fight. ****m had a stroke and recovered. Now he's back in the mix.

can I see that video evidence please

[RisAri0]

good point, but that was a different Hopkins that fought Calzaghe.

So ur saying the Hopkins that fought Calzaghe that night wouldn't have beaten Pavlik?

[S A M U R A I]

Sorry mate i was referring to Pullcounter, claiming that Pavlik didn't go down, whilst Joe did, therefore somehow Pavlik > Joe. It's what he was insinuating.

No worries, I realized it was a mis-quote.

that's not what happened... joe stopped thinking about the counters and just started throwing punches knowing that his speed is a match for Hopkins and that hopkins would just go into a defensive shell and pretty much not punch back.

Ok bro, we'll have to agree to disagree. What I saw was an exceptional ability to time Hopkins and adjust.



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[Pullcounter]

You gotta look at the fact that who B-Hop fights. There's a reason why Bernard TRIED to potshot Calzaghe. He saw something he couldn't commit to wen fighting Joe. Calzaghe is no Pavlik, Trinidad, Tarver, Winky. His footwork may not look good, but its unorthodox as hell.

I understand that calzaghe is a whole other sack of awkwardness, but we are talking about Hopkins here. There's a potshotting Hopkins, a mauling/dirty Hopkins and the supreme boxer Hopkins who actually throws combinations.

the Hopkins that joe faced was the potshoting Hopkins... we know this because that has been Hopkins' style since tito.

Styles make fights, yea, true. but Hopkins doesn't just have 1 style.