Why didn't Hopkins dominate Calzaghe?

[Flawless 2]

Pavlik was always a second rate fighter. The only people he looks good against are those who stand in front of him and let him throw them crude punches.

Ive been saying he was a bum the whole time, but now the whole world has seen him get exposed

Jermain Taylor??

[ACHlLLES]

I knew what Pavlik was, and thats a tough ass fighter. Still wanted Calzaghe to be the first to take his 0 away from him. It would have been satisfying to add another person to Calzaghes record who was undefeated and he took there 0 away from them... Kessler, Lacy, and Veit if I remember correctly. Who else did Calzaghe own yet?

[Ryn0]

Jermain Taylor??

Well in the first fight Jermain did lay on the ropes against Pavlik an awful lot

[Bad_Barracuda]

Well there's a good possiblility that taylor was hungrier at the time and Calzaghe is just a more versitile fighter with more skill and very crafty and was carefull to not fall into hopkin's game plan... while i think both of these r true... the golden lesson everyone should have learned is that STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!

If by falling in like a rookie and flailing his arms like a DROWNING SPIDER MONKEY what you call "veritile" then you're right..Joe is versitle.

Even his Dad thought he lost.

There was obviously something wrong with B-Hop.

I think he strayed to far from his normal regiment and it cost him.

Don't ever call Calzhage versitle unless you're trying to make somebody laugh.

[Ryn0]

If by falling in like a rookie and flailing his arms like a DROWNING SPIDER MONKEY what you call "veritile" then you're right..Joe is versitle.

Even his Dad thought he lost.

There was obviously something wrong with B-Hop.

I think he strayed to far from his normal regiment and it cost him.

Don't ever call Calzhage versitle unless you're trying to make somebody laugh.

Learn how to spell Versatile and Calzaghe won the fight regardless and no amount of you crying and whining can do anything about it. He may have looked bad in doing so but he outwork Hopkins on that particular night. Bad stylistic match-up for B-Hop

[Drunk Punch]

calzaghe didn't win hopkins due to his speed but more due to his stamina, boxing brain and footwork.

kelly is an orthodox figter and he is very crude he is simple and does the basics very well. thats how hes accomplished so much but if pavlik had gone up against any other fighter who had any decent knowledge of the game like a calzaghe, hopkins, dawson, tarver, RJJ or kessler i would have bet on him to lose.

kelly sets his feet and then pumps out his jab, bernard in the first half of the fight threw short sharp left hooks as he was stepping in prevent kelly from getting his jab out. in the second half bernard would either throw his counter right over the jab or just move to the right so Kelly couldn't land his right hand straight after.

JC is different - in fact hes proabably the best in ring tactician in boxing right now. he made Bernard think and fight at a higher pace but constantly being switched on forcing Hopkins to make a mov and then counter it. JC beat Hopkins by pumping out one jab and then waiting for the counter before lauching a flurry of punches. He would dart in and out of range and therefore not allow Hopkins to set up his traps or his punches, he would use feints to create openings and then move in and then flurry and move back again.

bascially JC is twice the fighter that pavlik will ever be and the fact that some people thought that pavlik would even be competitive with JC is a joke.

as for Hopkins i have to give him huge credit i thought he would win but i thought it would be via SD, i thought Kelly might take a few rounds but bernard just completely shut him out.

bernard vs dawson anyone?

Good post! Would give you K but I'm all out today.

[CiganoBoxer]

Like he dominated Tarver, Wright and Pavlik. Just want to know.

Thank you.

Thats funny cause all i see hopkins do in that Calzaghe fight was try to Hold,sham,cheat his way to victory !?

[CardioMonster]

The fact is that you can only do things in the ring that you are allowed to do. Pavlik just looked confused the whole time with Hopkins defensive skills and counter punching. He wasnt there to be hit. Calzaghe's jab was the key to his fight against Hopkins, Pavlik's jab is too slow and he didnt use it half the time.

[Silencers]

Calzaghe fights with a different style, he's a southpaw, which is awkward enough but he's also an awkward southpaw which just makes him doubly tough to fight but I honestly think that if Hopkins performed against Calzaghe the way he did against Pavlik, he would have won.

[starjammer]

Thats funny cause all i see hopkins do in that Calzaghe fight was try to Hold,sham,cheat his way to victory !?

Hmm? I never said Hopkins dominated Calzaghe. I asked why he wasn't able to
man.