Who has the better resume at 130? Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquaio?

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  • RiZo is Gay
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    #101
    There aint no competition here,
    Floyd would of destroyed manny he was way to fast and at 130 he was very big puncher.
    Floyd back at 130 also packed a hell of alot of power,
    and along with that defence of his, there is no way manny could get around him

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      #102
      Originally posted by richie kay
      There aint no competition here,
      Floyd would of destroyed manny he was way to fast and at 130 he was very big puncher.
      Floyd back at 130 also packed a hell of alot of power,
      and along with that defence of his, there is no way manny could get around him
      Extremely unresponsive to the question that this thread asked.

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        #103
        Originally posted by JoartCC
        There is nothing in Gayweather's resume which can top wins over legends like Barrera and Morales...

        Of course if you count wins over Judah, Gatti, Corley, etc...

        You're an idiot gayweather fan.

        My god mate you seriously need to do your homework

        Floyd fought Judah at 147
        He foughtGatti at 140
        And he fought Corley at 140


        My god your ******,
        Stop hating on floyd and go have W.A.N.K. over a manny pac poster or something.

        You know nothing about boxing



        GET A LIFE



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        • RiZo is Gay
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          #104
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          Extremely unresponsive to the question that this thread asked.
          My bad.

          Theres a thread in Fantasy Fights Labelled Manny vs Floyd at 130,
          got mixed up

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          • RiZo is Gay
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            #105
            Originally posted by JoartCC
            Comparison by analogy fckwit.

            I know you're dumb.

            But never knew you're THAT DUMB.

            Besides...

            There is nothing in Gayweather's resume that top wins over legends...
            Legends like who???
            A Barerra and Morales who where both well past there prime??

            My god your posts are hilarious

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              #106
              Originally posted by NoFear24
              You say his best win is against Chico. Deigo is great but not as great as JMM or Barrara. His style was to one dimensional. He wasn't versatile enough to beat a skillful boxer. Such as Floyd or even Casa.

              Floyd is technically more skillful than Pac, but Pac always want to fight the best whether that be a much bigger Dela Hoya, rematching JMM again or even fighting a bigger hatton. Hell he even says he might want to fight Floyd if he beats Oscar and I give nothing but respect for fighters who are willing to fight the best in the game. GO PACMAN
              You make some some decent points, however i see that you are basing this mainly on skill, and not accomplishments and what these fighters have done at 130 only. Lets take a look at their achievements at 130 alone.

              Mayweather started his career at 130 and spent much more time there, while Pacquaio has brief reign there that consisted of past their prime legends and only 8 fights and one of those being a lost to Eric Morales.

              Mayweather won the title from Genaro Hernandez, who had only lost 1 time out of 40 fights and that was to De La Hoya in his prime. Hernandez was a 2X super featherweight champion, was in his prime, had good wins over Azumah Nelson( who he won the title from), Jorge Paez ect, he beat other top contenders and had a good title reign. He was also inducted into the hall of fame.

              Mayweather's win over a prime Jesus Chavez( who later went on to become lightweight champion) is also often overlooked. Floyd was the first to beat him when he was in his prime and he also stopped him.

              His win over Corrales, as i have stated earlier in this thread IMO is better than than any of Pacquaio's wins, let alone at 130 itself. Not only was Mayweather the first to beat him, but he put on an absolute masterclass and IMO it was his best performance. Corrales was not only on the pound for pound list for what he did at 130, but he also went on to have a hall of fame career.

              What fighter has Pacquaio beaten that was great, in their prime and and was a natural super featherweight? Corrales has great wins over Derek ''smoke'' Gainer, (who was the first to beat Freddie Norwood), he was the first to beat the unbeaten favorite in Freitas( who was 35-0 and a multiple world champion). Corrales also had other good wins at super featherweight including Garry ST. Clair, Roberto Garcia, Angel Manfredy, Joel Casamayor and other brilliant fighters that was NATURAL super featherweights. Floyd also a had a good win over a prime Emanuel Agustas, who was much better than what his record indicated. Agustus was not world beater, however has always fought the best had very good wins of his own as well and had about 40 fights.


              So, what great things did Barrera, Marquez or Morales accomplish over prime fighters after their losses to Marquez at super featherweight? Because i personally did see anything much. There were good wins that Barrrera had at super feather such as Robbie Peden( who was a good contender but was never more than a paper champion what i remember). That is no offense to him, but he has does not have that win over a prime elite fighter. Barrera at super feather also beat Morales and Juarez and that's mainly it as far as high quality wins. Morales went on to beat Pacquaio after Barrera and that was great win, but Juarez was never a champion and has lost all of his biggest fights. That is it for Barrera's accomplishments at 130, now lets take at what Morales did........

              He had 8 fights there and was stopped 2 of those 8 times. He has good wins over Chavez and Carlos Hernandez, however that's it for high quality wins. Now lets take a look at what Marquez did at super featherweight.....

              He beat Barrera( who was past his prime and many people believe that he lost) but take nothing away from him, because it was a great win over a fighter that was still champion, but was past his prime. Marquez defended his title one time against Juarez( who again was a good fighter but never champion, who also doesn't have any stand out wins).

              What did any of these fighters do that was better than a prime Corrales or Genaro Hernandez? Not only were these natural featherweights, but they were also in their prime and was champions. Marquez, Morales and Barrera were all above their weight classes and past their prime. Good wins, although that they did stack to what Corrales or Hernandez did at 130.
              Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 10-18-2008, 08:30 AM.

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                #107
                Slick thankz for clearing that up. Might have to edit it a little bit...so jus run threw it a lil. Good read man. I would send Green K but it won't let me

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                • RiZo is Gay
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  You make some some decent points, however i see that you are basing this mainly on skill, and not accomplishments and what these fighters have done at 130 only. Lets take a look at their achievements at 130 alone.

                  Mayweather started his career at 130 and spent much more time there, while Pacquaio has brief reign there that consisted of past their prime legends and only 8 fights and one of those being a lost to Eric Morales.

                  Mayweather won the title from Genaro Hernandez, who had only lost 1 time out of 40 fights and that was to De La Hoya in his prime. Hernandez was a 2X super featherweight champion, was in his prime, had good wins over Azumah Nelson( who he won the title from), Jorge Paez ect, he beat other top contenders and had a good title reign. He was also inducted into the hall of fame.

                  Mayweather's win over a prime Jesus Chavez( who later went on to become lightweight champion) is also often overlooked. Floyd was the first to beat him when he was in his prime and he also stopped him.

                  His win over Corrales, as i have stated earlier in this thread IMO is better than than any of Pacquaio's wins, let alone at 130 itself. Not only was Mayweather the first to beat him, but he put on an absolute masterclass and IMO it was his best performance. Corrales was not only on the pound for pound list for what he did at 130, but he also went on to have a hall of fame career.

                  What fighter has Pacquaio beaten that was great, in their prime and and was a natural super featherweight? Corrales has great wins over Derek ''smoke'' Gainer, (who was the first to beat Freddie Norwood), he was the first to beat the unbeaten favorite in Freitas( who was 35-0 and a multiple world champion). Corrales also had other good wins at super featherweight including Garry ST. Clair, Roberto Garcia, Angel Manfredy, Joel Casamayor and other brilliant fighters that was NATURAL super featherweights. Floyd also a had a good win over a prime Emanuel Agustas, who was much better than what his record indicated. Agustus was not world beater, however has always fought the best had very good wins of his own as well and had about 40 fights.


                  So, what great things did Barrera, Marquez or Morales accomplish over prime fighters after their losses to Marquez at super featherweight? Because i personally did see anything much. There were good wins that Barrrera had at super feather such as Robbie Peden( who was a good contender but was never more than a paper champion what i remember). That is no offense to him, but he has does not have that win over a prime elite fighter. Barrera at super feather also beat Morales and Juarez and that's mainly it as far as high quality wins. Morales went on to beat Pacquaio after Barrera and that was great win, but Juarez was never a champion and has lost all of his biggest fights. That is it for Barrera's accomplishments at 130, now lets take at what Morales did........

                  He had 8 fights there and was stopped 6 of those 8 times. He has good wins over Chavez and Carlos Hernandez, however that's it for high quality wins. Now lets take a look at what Marquez did at super featherweight.....

                  He beat Barrera( who was past his prime and many people believe that he lost) but take nothing away from him, because it was a great win over a fighter that was still champion, but was past his prime. Marquez defended his title one time against Juarez( who again was a good fighter but never champion, who also doesn't have any stand out wins).

                  What did any of these fighters do that was better than a prime Corrales or Genaro Hernandez? Not only were these natural featherweights, but they were also in their prime and was champions. Marquez, Morales and Barrera were all above their weight classes and past their prime. Good wins, although that they did stack to what Corrales or Hernandez did at 130.

                  Brillant post

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                  • JoartCC
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    So... start a new topic? I mean, really, talking about all that other **** is not relevant in this thread.

                    Plus... I already said that Pacquiao should be winning this poll by damn near shutout, because beating Barrera, Morales twice and Marquez at this weight is much better than beating Corrales, G. Hernandez, C. Hernandez, Vargas and Chavez (I think those were all the champions that Floyd fought at 130).

                    I just think it's hilarious that you can't articulate actual reasons why your favorite fighter has a better resume than your least favorite fighter at a weight class when it is obviously true...

                    Then again, you are an idiot, and haven't shown anyone on this board anything to make us think otherwise, so...
                    Actually I already explain in previous posts why...

                    I just don't feel the need to educate morons and dimwits.

                    Of course being me... from time to time I try to explain something in detail...

                    Right now... All I have to do is point out the admission of cowardice and all other arguments become moot.

                    I could explain this again why... and so forth...

                    But again as I've said...

                    I love playing with dimwits and mental midgets.

                    Besides...

                    If I endeavored to explain every point of everything that I say...

                    Then guys like you will ACTUALLY LEARN and you guys will stop being idiots.

                    Now that is not fun for me.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                      Corrales was actually in his prime when Mayweather beat him, so I'd say Mayweather. Corrales was also on the pound for pound list at the time and has one of the best junior lightweight reigns in recent memory. That win IMO was better than an over the hill Barrerra or Morales.
                      Barrera, Moralas, and JJM were all on the P4P list when they fought Pac. So no you're wrong it's Pac.

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