Vitali Klitschko would KO Prime Tyson

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i think Wlad gets put to sleep...



Vitaly on the other hand, that could be Ruddock-Tyson 1 all over again

[Benny Leonard]

Vitali would pose a problem for any HW. Thats the basis here.

As for he's chances against a prime Tyson I'd say they would be pretty good. Tyson always had trouble with the tall rangy guys like bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker. Tyson often had a fight won before the bell rang. He was soooo intimidating. Best example of this is Michael Spinks who was pale as a blanket when he entered the ring.

I am sure Vitali wouldn't be intimidated, and there is a good chance that he could do what Douglas did. Of course Tyson was on the decline in the Douglas fight and suffered from not having a professional corner and Kevin Rooney as trainer.

So ultimately this is a pick'em fight for me.

Yes, but why were fighters intimidated from someone that was smaller than them? A 5'11, 220 pound guy is going to intimidate a 6'2+, 230+ size man?

[nickphilli]

a prime tyson, the tyson who destroyed michael spinks, would have knocked both klitschkos out early..niether one of them have ever fought someone who can slip punched and cut off the ring like tyson could..and the height difference wouldnt be a factor, when tyson was young and in his prime he could still ktfo those bigger guys because he had such quick hands and head movement

[-MAKAVELLI-]

a prime tyson, the tyson who destroyed michael spinks, would have knocked both klitschkos out early..niether one of them have ever fought someone who can slip punched and cut off the ring like tyson could..and the height difference wouldnt be a factor, when tyson was young and in his prime he could still ktfo those bigger guys because he had such quick hands and head movement

not necessarily disagreeing with you but someone like Vitaly who had a long jab, hard to intimidate, had a solid chin, and had the weight to lean on mike, would have been a good matchup

[Benny Leonard]

Mike Tyson wasn't really tested in the late 80s, there were no other good heavyweights around then, except for past-prime Holmes. Vitali has the style that might beat Tyson, and his solid chin of course would be a factor.

It would have be a great fight, I think Vitali would win but we'll never know for certain. Too bad it didn't happen in 1999 - 2001. Vitali said he wanted to fight Tyson at that time, but his shoulder injury in the Byrd fight set him back.

I think Vitali beats the 1999-2001 version of Tyson. Tyson was **** after jail, let alone after Spinks. Tyson reminded me of one of those Sand Clocks: with each day past from the Spinks fight, without Kevin, he got further away from the Catskill training and the Sand, which was "Iron Mike" was running out...that knowledge was running out.

Tyson's career after leaving Rooney

[Derranged]

Exactly. How was Tyson not in his prime? What the ****? As soon as he loses, it means he's "shot". Bull**** logic.

He wasnt shot, he just wasnt the same fighter. Mentally he was ruined. His head wasnt in it and he wasnt training hard anymore. That isnt quite the same as shot, which is another word that gets thrown around.

I would have to lean towards Tyson winning this by a TKO but Vitali has the potential to give Tyson hell.

[The Gully Gad]

Tyson would cane him...
Swipe the fringe clean off him mid rounds if that...

[BattlingNelson]

Yes, but why were fighters intimidated from someone that was smaller than them? A 5'11, 220 pound guy is going to intimidate a 6'2+, 230+ size man?

It may seem a bit absurd today but Tyson in his prime was THÉ baddest man on the planet. Because of his awesome punching power, speed and ferocity in the ring. Pre Douglas a lot of people, and they were serious boxing people, debated wheter Tyson was the no.1 or no2 all time HW. Ie better than or just behind Ali.

[Benny Leonard]

It may seem a bit absurd today but Tyson in his prime was THÉ baddest man on the planet. Because of his awesome punching power, speed and ferocity in the ring. Pre Douglas a lot of people, and they were serious boxing people, debated wheter Tyson was the no.1 or no2 all time HW. Ie better than or just behind Ali.

So you agree it was boxing ability that caused him to be feared?

When he lost this ability he wasn't so feared...but people like to think now that he never had this ability because they don't want to remember something that was great that is now wasted. That is why they remember Tyson vs. Douglas and after, but not before.

I think it also gives those that always wanted Tyson to fail, a sense of relief that he threw it away in time for Douglas...so then they could just say, "well, Tyson lost to Douglas, he's not so good after all." But question them on his career leading up to Spinks and beating Spinks....with his trainer who was given the boot after...what made him great on the road to the title...plus the pressures Tyson had to deal with outside of the ring...they don't listen. It's the "I don't want to hear it; I'm right, Your wrong" mentality.

People want to lump everything together instead of taking the time and breaking it down into layers. It's the difference between just looking at the surface/numbers and looking beneath the surface/inside the numbers.

[The Gully Gad]

For 1 sec it looked like phillp drummond talking to Arnold jackson

**** there was a crazy height difference
But back in the day Tyson would of tore thats **** up....