Wlad vs Ali who wins and why?

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  • slicksouthpaw16
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    #51
    Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
    LOL, you Ali nuthuggers can be such a bunch or ******s sometimes

    Ali was NOT invincible

    Wlad's massive size, skill, excellent jab, athleticism and 1 punch KO power would give Ali A LOT of problems.

    Prime for Prime....Wlad would definitely be capable of beating Ali
    Just worry about paying me my bet tomorrow night...lol.

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    • Dan...
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      #52
      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
      LOL, you Ali nuthuggers can be such a bunch or ******s sometimes

      Ali was NOT invincible

      Wlad's massive size, skill, excellent jab, athleticism and 1 punch KO power would give Ali A LOT of problems.
      Skill? You say that like Wlad would have had a skill advantage over Ali. I know you Wlad huggers can be ridiculous sometimes but that would be going over the top.

      Ali had it all, he was the total package. We are talking prime for prime here, and prime Ali at heavyweight was invincible as far as I am concerned. He came back from his exile diminished and still managed to get it done against all the top guys when the division was the most competitive in its history.

      I really doubt you have watched many Ali fights dude. I don't class you as a boxing fan to be honest. You just like watching your European heavyweights go round.

      As I have said before I am a fan of Wlad Klit. He is my favourite heavy right now and probably my favourite of the last 10 or 15 years, but saying he would stop Ali is just a joke and demonstrates why your opinion has very little credibility around here with the exception of the rest of you Eastern Euro groupies.

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      • Porter's Dad
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        #53
        Originally posted by danc1984
        I might have to go with you on that one dude.
        Feel free.

        I actually thought he might just favour Ali slightly and overcome the nuthuggery, but...nah

        I tell people at my work about Wlad Owns.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #54
          Originally posted by Stickman
          IF he were to beat Klitschko, it'd be a decision, not a stoppage. He also tended to have trouble with big guys with a good jab.
          I hear that often but I'm not so sure if it's true.

          The fighters Ali had the most trouble with (in my opinion) were those who cut off the ring, not allowing him to use his feet, and consistently worked his body to slow him in the later rounds (which is why Ali went to great lengths to strengthen it). The left hook got through Ali's defense most often.

          Louis commented on it in the late 60's:

          “The kid has speed and there’s no one around to outbox him, and the opponent who tries is in his grave. Especially in the middle if the ring. I’d see to it that Clay didn’t stay in ring center. No. He’d be hit into those ropes as near a corner as I could get him. If he stayed on the ropes he would get hurt. Sooner or later he’d try to bounce off, when he did he would get hurt more. I’d press him, cut down his speed, and **** him around the ribs. I’d punish the body. “Kill the body and the head will die”, Chappie use to tell me. It figures. Sooner or later he’d forget about that face of his and he would start dropping that left hand like he did against Mildenberger and Chuvalo. Those fellows got their openings by accident, and fouled it up. I would work for it and wouldn’t reckon to miss when it arrived. Cassius Clay is a nice boy and a smart fighter. But I am sure Joe Louis would have licked him.”
          Frazier executed that gameplan almost perfectly against Ali in their first fight.

          Terrell was a tall guy (6'6) with cautious style and a good left jab but he was dominated by Ali from start to finish. Terrell was no Wladimir but there were similarities.

          Last edited by TheGreatA; 10-10-2008, 07:07 PM.

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          • Stickman
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            #55
            Originally posted by Keyser Soze
            Yo, CLAY was the ****!

            He was the ROBERT ZIMMERMAN of boxing! Not the CURTIS JACKSON that some claim. CLAY was the bomb.

            CLAY at his best was like hearing REGINAL DWIGHT play "Your Song" at his prime, and live.

            People like you, who think CLAY would struggle, have more warped thinking than PAUL GADD.

            (I just realised that no-one is going to get this. And this may be my finest ever post on the internet.)
            I get it, no worries there...I just disagree with you, if you think Clay wouldn't have trouble with Wlad.

            By the way, Dylan ****** ASS, always did, always will. I can't think of many less talented people who made more money in the music business.

            However, I surely do enjoy the music from that little hat wearing faggot.

            As for Raven...I can take or leave.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Keyser Soze
              Feel free.

              I actually thought he might just favour Ali slightly and overcome the nuthuggery, but...nah

              I tell people at my work about Wlad Owns.
              lol at school i showed people wlad owns posts and vivas posts and we all had a good laugh about it

              also showed them all the alts posts

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                #57
                Originally posted by Stickman
                I get it, no worries there...I just disagree with you, if you think Clay wouldn't have trouble with Wlad.

                By the way, Dylan ****** ASS, always did, always will. I can't think of many less talented people who made more money in the music business.

                However, I surely do enjoy the music from that little hat wearing faggot.

                As for Raven...I can take or leave.
                I don't think you entirely got it, though. Because I don't understand why you insist on calling Ali "Clay".

                How come? Serious question.

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                • Stickman
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                  Feel free.

                  I actually thought he might just favour Ali slightly and overcome the nuthuggery, but...nah

                  I tell people at my work about Wlad Owns.

                  That's funny. I hope you bring them quotes, as I'm sure they wouldn't believe you without them.

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                  • Stickman
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                    I don't think you entirely got it, though. Because I don't understand why you insist on calling Ali "Clay".

                    How come? Serious question.

                    Real reason? I just got used to hearing him referred to as Clay when I was a kid, and have a hard time thinking of him otherwise. Sort of like calling your grandfather "PaPa", instead of Grandfather, in a way.

                    And yes, I did get it, just didn't know it was bothering you in some way...just thought you were having a little fun with it.

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
                      Feel free.

                      I actually thought he might just favour Ali slightly and overcome the nuthuggery, but...nah

                      I tell people at my work about Wlad Owns.
                      I think WLAD OWNS slightly favoured Ali in another thread.

                      I'm not sure if he is being serious.

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