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  • #61
    Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
    Cotto is doing his own thing so it's straight. If he were to pounce around and yell VIVA PUERTO RICO!!!, he'd be putting on an act. I dont like fighters who are fake like that.
    sad but true...


    it is what it is...!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
      Cotto is doing his own thing so it's straight. If he were to pounce around and yell VIVA PUERTO RICO!!!, he'd be putting on an act. I dont like fighters who are fake like that.
      100% Agreed, fake fighters like Oscar piss me off! And Floyd trying his damn hardest to smile and be the nice freindly american boy.


      Cotto is a cold, clinical, emotionless fighting machine who fights everybody - cool in my book even if his interviews are less than tantalizing

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ThePen2 View Post
        I translated the article, Mellow!

        One of the reasons why Cotto and Santos don't receive the same support is because of the following. They fight for themselves. That's fine because they're the ones making the sacrifices.

        But the thing is that Puerto Rico wants to identify themselves because their identity is hampered by the fact that they're under the rule of Spain and now the US.

        In Puerto Rico, the US has established a system that has little by little diluted the integrity of the boricua (expression meaning "proud puertorrican"), the thought of YES I CAN. The US system has created a mentality of colonization that instills within puertorricans the thought of NO, WE CAN'T.

        With this way of thinking with which the majority of puertorricans carry, puertorricans feel the necessity to have a hero that represents them and that is able to claim that they indeed can succeed.

        It's for this reason that every time Puerto Rico has an achievement, whether it be sports, music or education, it gives great importance to the person representing us. Take out your flag and send the message that "Yes you can! Boricuas can succeed!"

        This is a psychological effect within us. The rest of the world doesn't have this problem. Why? Because Puerto Rico is the only colony in the world for which during 500 years we have been told that we can't do anything.

        It is because of this that those who represent the island and mentions the name of Puerto Rico..."We can...believe you me!" Those will receive 110% support from all the boricuas...win or lose.


        Great article, mellow!

        Gimme K, please!
        great job on the translation and great job to the writer, Im going to look into this and the history of the Puerto Rican people

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        • #64
          Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
          100% Agreed, fake fighters like Oscar piss me off! And Floyd trying his damn hardest to smile and be the nice freindly american boy.


          Cotto is a cold, clinical, emotionless fighting machine who fights everybody - cool in my book even if his interviews are less than tantalizing
          yup...

          For me its about boxing skills....

          but thats what happenin....

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          • #65
            Originally posted by EDD1 View Post
            great job on the translation and great job to the writer, Im going to look into this and the history of the Puerto Rican people

            Thanks man... that was my intention.. thanks again to pen2

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ThePen2 View Post
              I kept telling many people over here (family and friends). As soon as Cotto lost, some wrote him off as a loser, a nobody, a sucker. Truth was, while Tito didn't get as battered as Cotto whenever he lost (Hopkins, Wright, Jones), whenver Tito lost a fight, he lost it convincingly.Tito's first loss was worse than Cotto's. Trinidad was embarrassed (and I bet surprised) by Hopkins' boxing ability, and it wasn't like De la Hoya where it was just boxing and light flurries, Hopkins throughout the course of the fight got in some monster punches and hurt Tito on a few occasions...but here's the thing: the fight was boring (pretty lopsided) and Tito never EVER gave us the impression that he could win this fight as it was being carried out (save for his money punch) but after 5 or 6 rounds I think many gave up hope. Then, as if the embarrassment wasn't enough, Tito was sent to the canvas in the final round in a monsterous knockdown. He got up, but he was out of it and his corner stopped the fight. He was embarrassed, got a TKO loss (on top of the fact that he would've lost it REGARDLESS of a knockdown or no knockdown) and the man who beat him...was a guy...who went to his country in San Juan...and threw the Puertorrican flag on the floor. It was like having your bike stolen, sending your big brother out to beat him up, and then your brother being beat up in the process...the bully got the last laugh.

              The Cotto/Margarito fight, while I am Puertorrican, was an entertaining fight. Not as pointless action hiding incompetence, BOTH fighters in the fight had their moments, it was a boxer/puncher match-up, but the boxer could actually punch. What we got for 11 rounds was back-and-forth, give-and-take candidate for fight of the year. Cotto actually gave us the sense that he would win this fight, even if Margarito was closing in during the later rounds. Cotto landed big shots, which was why everyone was talking about Antonio's chin the next day...at work, at school, in the University, everywhere. Margarito got in piercing uppercuts to the body that was subtlely hurting Cotto and the Puertorrican star fought until there was nothing else to give. The only bad aspect about this fight would probably be that Cotto's first loss was in TKO fasion in a fight with nationalistic implications...which is why, looking back in history, Gómez's first loss was painfully upsetting, given the style of the loss, the nationality of his opponent and the surprise of it all considering Gómez had 32 straight knockouts when he fought him.

              Bottom line: Tito was a tremendous champion and I respect him for it, he was a big sensation back when I was still junior high, but his whenever he loses he doesn't even seem to put up a fight and I cringe at the fact that he probably did more numbers (pay-per-view) here in Puerto Rico for his fight with Jones compared to Cotto's fight with Mosley 2 months earlier.
              Cotto lost his last fight, but anyone would be ignorant to say that he didn't put up a great fight and gave a concerted effort to win it. What puertorricans and mexicans got was en entertaining fight, great two way action and a match that definitely lived up to the hype surrounding it.
              Thats a great way to look at it. It really was a great fight, and it's so irritating when die hard Cotto fans sound bitter as hell about it and when Margo fans are so arrogant about it.

              Cotto and Margarito are two incredible champions and when they fight again I hope it can live up to the first. And I hope Cotto wins so we can see a 3rd fight and make it one of the better trilogies in recent memories. I was watching the pressers the other day and it got me so excited i forgot that the fight already happened.

              I never really liked Trinidad, he was always way too brash. He just had this arrogant aura about him, even if he wasn't vocal about it. Cotto is all business, and people forget that he's still working on his english which has to do with his interviews being so bland. He's a class act, he's humble, and he doesn't need the attention Tito did, and I like fighters like that a lot more.

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              • #67
                Why does Tito never give Cotto any props? Does he dislike him for some reason? What has juanma done so far to even be considered close to the level of Cotto or Tito? NOTHING ! All he has done is ko bums with the exception of Ponce and Ponce in my opinion was very over rated and has a fighting style that always leaves himself open for big punches and has no boxing skills. Rafa is going to surgically end his hype if they ever meet.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post
                  and I think u were the class room clown!
                  lol why u getting mad for? that's the gist of what was translated.

                  PRicans have an inferiority issue because they are a defacto colony for most of their history so they have cling onto successful PRicans to make themselves feel better.

                  It's not Cotto and Santos' fault that they are a protectorate

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    lol why u getting mad for? that's the gist of what was translated.
                    PRicans have an inferiority issue because they are a defacto colony for most of their history so they have cling onto successful PRicans to make themselves feel better.

                    It's not Cotto and Santos' fault that they are a protectorate
                    na man..im not mad i do understand what u said....

                    and u are right in what u said.... the colony **** has influence on puertoricans a lot...

                    no one is blaming cotto or santos... but definitly they are not getting that love... either way.. thanks for posting
                    Last edited by mellow_mood; 10-07-2008, 02:28 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Zack Morris View Post
                      Nope, for some reason he [tito] never liked Cotto. Never really attended any of his fights except the Shane one...
                      Not true. Tito showed up to his early career fights.


                      Originally posted by gibo View Post
                      truth is TITO dislikes COTTO, cause COTTO between fights likes to booze it up and has on several occasions disrespected females at the local pubs in CAGUAS. He's a pro when it comes to boxing, but he's know'n to be a partyer and has staggered out of many watering holes in P.R. TITO was not that way, and does not accept it.
                      WHERE YOU GETTING THESE FACTS FROM!?!?!
                      He's a home-body. Spends most of his time with his kids!


                      Originally posted by HML88 View Post
                      The reason why tito doesnt like cotto cuz around 4-5 yrs ago. he kept on getting that hes the next trinidad. all he said was im not trinidad, gomez, benitez. Im miguel cotto and i want to write my own history.

                      and Tito being the fake ignorant hick that he is took it up the ass.
                      and since then holds a grudge.
                      THAT sounds accurate.
                      I remember reading similar things along these lines.

                      Originally posted by aztecadq View Post
                      Cotto doesn't come close to Trinidad's legend because of his personality and his life style. In Newark, NJ Trinidad fans would always crowd the streets of Newark after a Trinidad win or loss. Never seen anything close to that when it comes to Cotto...
                      You mean the airport?
                      At least He received a warm greeting at the airport when he got home in PR after his loss.

                      Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post
                      Please someone translate this... i will give a solid point but is just to hard for me to translate in english.. so if someone can translate I'll appreciate....
                      GREAT POST MELLOW!!!!
                      Use this next time:
                      http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en


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