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  • Eaner0919
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    #81
    wow this thread went 8 pages

    here

    ****you make weight.....YOU MAKE WEIGHT.

    ****PWill won fair and square

    ****If you call out PWill's "size" then expect to be called on the floor when it comes to Tony

    ****Tony is indeed a big welter

    ****when in doubt refer to my first point

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    • Ray  Ray
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      #82
      Originally posted by Eaner0919
      wow this thread went 8 pages

      here

      ****you make weight.....YOU MAKE WEIGHT.

      ****PWill won fair and square

      ****If you call out PWill's "size" then expect to be called on the floor when it comes to Tony

      ****Tony is indeed a big welter

      ****when in doubt refer to my first point

      /thread
      Words from a wise man!

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      • markfrombrookly
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        #83
        The guy that made this thread is either a Paul Williams hater or a complete moron. Most of the fighters in all divisions arent naturally that weight or walk around that weight. If they did weigh ins the day of the fight then Margarito, Clottey, Cintron, Cotto, Berto, Baldomir, and many others wouldnt be fighting in the welterweight division. Off the top of my head the only fighters that would probably be able to weigh in the same day as a fight and weigh 147 is Zab Judah and Floyd Mayweather. Cotto was using his size advantage when he was fighting at 140. And Hatton uses his size advantage at 140 too. Do you think all these people walk around at 140 and 147lbs?. I'm 5'7 and i weigh 150lbs and I'm pretty thin.. And I dont even train. The whole point is that Paul Williams isn't the only one that takes advantage of the day before weigh ins. 90% of fighters today aren't naturally the weight that they're fighting at. But hey they train to get their body down to that weight so more power to them. If they can make the weight when they get weighed then they're not cheating.

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        • Eaner0919
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          #84
          Originally posted by markfrombrookly
          The guy that made this thread is either a Paul Williams hater or a complete moron. Most of the fighters in all divisions arent naturally that weight or walk around that weight. If they did weigh ins the day of the fight then Margarito, Clottey, Cintron, Cotto, Berto, Baldomir, and many others wouldnt be fighting in the welterweight division. Off the top of my head the only fighters that would probably be able to weigh in the same day as a fight and weigh 147 is Zab Judah and Floyd Mayweather. Cotto was using his size advantage when he was fighting at 140. And Hatton uses his size advantage at 140 too. Do you think all these people walk around at 140 and 147lbs?. I'm 5'7 and i weigh 150lbs and I'm pretty thin.. And I dont even train. The whole point is that Paul Williams isn't the only one that takes advantage of the day before weigh ins. 90% of fighters today aren't naturally the weight that they're fighting at. But hey they train to get their body down to that weight so more power to them. If they can make the weight when they get weighed then they're not cheating.
          I think you missed the topic at hand

          not walk around weight

          natural weight class i.e someone who can make it into a weight class normally and without harm

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          • DuttyAlacrity
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            #85
            Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
            Divisions are in place so you fight people your size and are not at unfair disadvantages. Obviously williams has found a loop hole. As long as you can make weight right? lol check these stats out!

            Here is williams stats:

            6'-3" 82" reach

            now check these stats from heavy weights:

            vitali: 6-7 80"
            wlad: 6-6 81"
            Danny williams: 6-3 79"
            John ruiz: 6-2 78"
            Chagaev: 6-1 74"
            Samuel Peter: 77" 6-0
            David haye 6-3 78"
            Lamon Brewster 6-2 77"
            Golota: 6-4 79"
            Muhammad ali: 6-3 80"
            leon spinks 6-1 76"


            and some more fighters:

            Roy jones jr: 5-11 74"
            Antonio Tarver 6-2 75"
            Bernard Hopkins 6-1 75"
            Pavlik: 75" 6-2



            Pwill's reach is bigger than both's klitchko's He's taller than 98% of heavy weights. Why is he fighting guys the damn WW size???? Good example of picking on smaller fighters or working the system in an attempt to get rich. would williams be williams if instead of going down in weight he actually did what the norm is and go up in weight as your careers moves on? It's embarrassing for williams to be fighting ww's he has no shame! Reminds me of the big dudes back in the day trying to be tough in front of people have their size it really is laughable. Looking at those stats makes you wonder how good quintana is if he can conquer those astonishing disadvantages he had and makes me wonder how good williams really is. Margarito had him hurt and holding the 10th and 11th round but why???? there's no reason for any ww to be lasting 6 rounds with pwill it's a shame they do!
            *YAWN*
            *moving on to next thread

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            • Elie
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              #86
              LOL good thread. I agree. Also I think Paul Williams should be forced to fight at heavyweight. cheap son of a *****

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                #87
                Originally posted by georgenewman
                LOL good thread. I agree. Also I think Paul Williams should be forced to fight at heavyweight. cheap son of a *****
                Are you serious?

                If thats the case...Why should he be fighting at heavyweight if he comes in at the 147 limit.. Hell he even comes in under the 147 limit. Please explain..I gotta to hear this one!

                So Margorito should be fighting higher than 147 since he's 5'11
                Chico (RIP) should've be fighting above lightweight according to you?
                Tyson should be fighting at lower weight classes according to your logic right?
                Valuev shouldnt even be boxing according to your logic?
                Julius Long should have been DQ because he was 7' fighting a 6'2 Samuel Peter right?

                Come on man, you cant really believe that garbage you just typed!

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                • El Dominicano
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Ray Ray
                  Are you serious?

                  If thats the case...Why should he be fighting at heavyweight if he comes in at the 147 limit.. Hell he even comes in under the 147 limit. Please explain..I gotta to hear this one!

                  So Margorito should be fighting higher than 147 since he's 5'11
                  Chico (RIP) should've be fighting above lightweight according to you?
                  Tyson should be fighting at lower weight classes according to your logic right?
                  Valuev shouldnt even be boxing according to your logic?
                  Julius Long should have been DQ because he was 7' fighting a 6'2 Samuel Peter right?

                  Come on man, you cant really believe that garbage you just typed!

                  These guyz don't understand what a frame is. They think Height/Reach should indicate a fighterz natural weight...they're that dumb.

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                  • Ray  Ray
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    These guyz don't understand what a frame is. They think Height/Reach should indicate a fighterz natural weight...they're that dumb.
                    I agree..Its not that hard to see..Most of the taller fighter that fight in the smaller classes..Have smaller frames and they are rather thin and skinny Ie.. Hearns, Chico, WIlliams.

                    I understand exactly where you coming from man..too bad other cant!

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                    • Ryn0
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                      #90
                      Why are you complaining now? your an idiot.

                      Saddler, Corrales, Arguello, Hearns, Williams all very tall fighters who fought at low weight classes. Yet people are complaining about Williams. IF he can make 147 then he is a welterweight, all of a sudden were complaining that someone has a reach and height advantage in boxing OMG!!!
                      That's why you have inside and outside fighters, hell no one complains about a big fighter that squeeze into a small frame and weight class but has no success.

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