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  • #11
    America is not about to drop off the world boxing map, but may have to get used to a boxing world that is a little bit different than what has gone before.

    The USA is currently witnessing the last months of what was an exceptional generation of boxers. James Toney, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Winky Wright, Oscar De La Hoya....great names, and it does not loook like they are going to be replaced with a new generation in anything like as great numbers.

    There are a lot of good young American boxers though, the problem is that Kelly Pavlik, Chad Dawson, Andre Berto and Timothey Bradley are all at the beginning of their careers and it is not clear if they will go on to anything like the same success. In all likelihood some will and some won't, but there'll be other guys coming along too, so American boxing will survive a while longer yet.

    They are in a better position than the UK at least, when Calzaghe and Hatton are gone, and once David Haye has been KOd by a heavyweight, the cupboard will definitely start to look a bit bare. I'm going to be supporting Fillipino boxers from now on, and Mikkel Kessler too of course.

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    • #12
      Just because you was born in that country doesn't mean you're that nationality.... My little sister was born in germany because of my dads RAF job, that makes her german? Don't be ****** mate.

      Also abadger, UK have got some good fighters in the rising, just not all pro fighters got a amateur pedgree to back it up. Been reading up on prospects that nobody knew about... A guy whos 7-0-0 with no AM experience what soever and a part time footballer for hartelepool united impressed me. Andy Murray looks good (if I got the right murray, the brit champ), still hope for amir khan but the yanks may claim him as there own when he moves to usa, michal maguire, james degale maybe...

      still hope
      Last edited by Oriachim; 09-26-2008, 02:59 PM.

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      • #13
        wtf 5-17//man stop america is very weak in boxing at the moment!! sad but very true we are not the power house anymore---hell most of the good basketball players in the nba arnt even american anymore..think im lying name 1 good american born white player in the nba.then name 1 black american ring champion in boxing

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        • #14
          Originally posted by msagrain View Post
          Yeh, real unbias.
          Ok since you can cut and paste so well show me where I wrote Calderon or Paulie were including in the final 5/17 numbers....I think you're trying to make it seem like I said something I clearly didnt. If the list is biased show me where, I'd like you to point out how a list made from several ranking lists is biased. Once again since you dont seem to get it I never included the puerto Rican Calderon or Malignaggi who isn't the 140 champ in the final total. Show me where it's biased.....

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Oriachim View Post
            Just because you was born in that country doesn't mean you're that nationality.... My little sister was born in germany because of my dads RAF job, that makes her german? Don't be ****** mate.
            nationality is what you claim tbh.

            a lot of american born mexican boxers for example see themselves more as mexicans.

            puerto rico is part of the u.s. but they don't claim american they say puerto rican.

            some canadian all time great heavyweights claim to be british just for the money.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
              nationality is what you claim tbh.

              a lot of american born mexican boxers for example see themselves more as mexicans.

              puerto rico is part of the u.s. but they don't claim american they say puerto rican.

              some canadian all time great heavyweights claim to be british just for the money.
              Free Cornwall. (Again).

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Oriachim View Post
                Just because you was born in that country doesn't mean you're that nationality.... My little sister was born in germany because of my dads RAF job, that makes her german? Don't be ****** mate.
                If your sister was born on german soil then you have to say she was born in germany, if she was born on a airforce base then that's considered a sovereign territory completely different. Margs was born in Cali, he is American born.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  nationality is what you claim tbh.

                  a lot of american born mexican boxers for example see themselves more as mexicans.

                  puerto rico is part of the u.s. but they don't claim american they say puerto rican.

                  some canadian all time great heavyweights claim to be british just for the money.
                  Good point Tua and I'm not dis*****g what people call their "homeland" but the fact of the matter is I clearly stated TWICE!!! Margs is American born. Now if you or anyone else can prove he wasnt born in America I'd like to see it.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by lparm View Post
                    Good point Tua and I'm not dis*****g what people call their "homeland" but the fact of the matter is I clearly stated TWICE!!! Margs is American born. Now if you or anyone else can prove he wasnt born in America I'd like to see it.
                    tbh it doesn't matter to me.

                    my top 5 all time favorites.

                    tua - new zealand/samoa
                    duran - panama
                    tito - puerto rico
                    pac - philippines
                    kostya - russia

                    none is american. i don't care. i like fighters for their fights and styles. nationality doesn't mean **** to me tbh.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by abadger View Post
                      Free Cornwall. (Again).
                      one day all of britannia will be ruled from truro......

                      one day the kernow will take it's rightful place in the world......

                      the sun will never set on the future cornish empire!!!!!!!!!

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