America's still the best

[Fulcrum29]

Oh yea? well Russia just won the european basketball championship and the world hockey championship and owns the heavyweight championship.

Russia dominates the world and owns europe right now..

[WLAD OWNS]

Heavyweight - Wladimir Klitschko - Ukrainian

Cruiserweight - Alexeev and Adamek - Polish and Russian

Light Heavyweight - Joe Calzaghe - British

Super Middleweight - Mikkel Kessler - Danish

Middleweight - Kelly Pavlik - USA

Light Middleweight - Sergei Dzinziruk - Ukrainian

Welterweight - Antonio Margarito - Mexican

Light Welterweight - Andreas Kotelnik - Ukrainian

Lightweight - JMM - Mexican

lower midget weight classes - latinos

[larryx]

Heavyweight - Wladimir Klitschko - Ukrainian

Cruiserweight - Alexeev and Adamek - Polish and Russian

Light Heavyweight - Joe Calzaghe - British

Super Middleweight - Mikkel Kessler - Danish

Middleweight - Kelly Pavlik - USA

Light Middleweight - Sergei Dzinziruk - Ukrainian

Welterweight - Antonio Margarito - Mexican

Light Welterweight - Andreas Kotelnik - Ukrainian

Lightweight - JMM - Mexican

lower midget weight classes - latinos

wlad why even waist your time!!!! im american and i know this thread is bull****

[msagrain]

Ok since you can cut and paste so well show me where I wrote Calderon or Paulie were including in the final 5/17 numbers....I think you're trying to make it seem like I said something I clearly didnt. If the list is biased show me where, I'd like you to point out how a list made from several ranking lists is biased. Once again since you dont seem to get it I never included the puerto Rican Calderon or Malignaggi who isn't the 140 champ in the final total. Show me where it's biased.....

Most bias people are blinded and can't see that they are bias.

[lparm]

Most bias people are blinded and can't see that they are bias.

I agree that's why you're objecting to an unbiased list compiled from several ranking lists. I didnt make it using my opinion I used the generally accepted rankings. If only your bias could see that.

[KESSLER]

I've seen some posters talk about their respective countries being a "powerhouse" of boxing well lets use the consensus rankings to see who really is still the best breeding ground for fighters.

Heavyweight - Wlad Klitschko - Ukrainian
Cruiserweight - Steve Cunningham - American
Lt Heavy - Joe Calzaghe - British
Super middle - Mikkel Kessler - Danish
Middleweight - Kelly Pavlik - American
Jr middle - Vernon Forrest - American
Welter - Antonio Margarito - born in California
Jr Welter - Ricky Hatton - British (Might be the American Malignaggi soon)
Lightweight - Nate Campbell - American
Super feather - Edwin Valero - Venezualan
Feather - Chris John - Indonesian
Jr Feather - Israel Vasquez - Mexican
Bantam - Hozumi Hasegawa - Japanese
Jr Bantam - Cristian Mijares - Mexican
Flyweight - Nonito Donaire - Phillipino
Jr fly - Ivan Calderon - Puerto Rican (the 51st state? lol)
Straw - Roman Gonzalez - Argintine

So there you have it gentlemen America still has 5 American born fighters at the top of their divisions and if Paulie wins it will be 6. But I'd say 5/17 isn't bad considering the closest country to that is mexico with 2 or 3 if you include the American born Margs who fights for that country. And before you argue about Margs I made it clear he is an American born fighter that fights out of mexico. Who's the best?

Denmark is dominating!

[abadger]

I tried to be nice before, now lets have the truth:

America is the worst country in the world and its boxers suck, in fact I think most of the new generation are disabled.

[wayno]

I tried to be nice before, now lets have the truth:

America is the worst country in the world and its boxers suck, in fact I think most of the new generation are disabled.

through lack of nutrition?

[Margs_smells]

nationality is what you claim tbh.

a lot of american born mexican boxers for example see themselves more as mexicans.

puerto rico is part of the u.s. but they don't claim american they say puerto rican.

some canadian all time great heavyweights claim to be british just for the money.

margarito is mexican he was born in north mexico aka cali

viva la raza!

[abadger]

through lack of nutrition?

Through being American. 9/10 children born in America since 1975 are ******ed.