was prime roy jones the most perfect fighter ever?

[IMDAZED]

Mostly I refer to his habit of jumping in behind his punches, pawing and rangefinding with his jab, a defence consisting of jumping backwards and just in general the looseness and unorthodoxy of his style. He used to commit many technical no-nos and it didn't matter because of his awesome reflexes, but it cost him in the end.

But what are the technical no-nos you are referring to?

And what was sloppy?

Floyd Mayweather jumps in with his punches quite a bit.

Pawing with your jab isn't being sloppy - it's something 99% of boxers do when they aren't firing it with authority - just like Roy.

Etc, etc.

Sloppy? You'll have to explain what was exactly and what was the techinical no-no.

[krispy kreme]

Agreed on textbook.

Unorthodox? Yes.

Sloppy? You kidding? With that style he would've gotten knocked out much earlier than he did.

Yeah I never thought he was really sloppy just not a textbook guy. He depended on those superhuman like reflexes he possesses.

[+= El Jefe=+]

I think Roy Relied more on his physical gifts than boxing skills even though he was a great technical fighter, he relied more on speed and power than technicality.

[IMDAZED]

Yeah I never thought he was really sloppy just not a textbook guy. He depended on those superhuman like reflexes he possesses.

Yup.

It was Buddy McGirt who broke down Jones' style in simple terms. He said it looks flashy but it's just a series of moves that he does in every fight that he's perfected...and uses them accordingly depending on how he adjusts to your style. Said that if you looked beyond that flash, you could figure out the moves. The hard part, he noted, was overcoming Jones' brain in the ring.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

Imo its would be Sugar Ray Robinson

[Derranged]

Roy Jones was a very difficult fighter to face... Part of the problem was his ability to lead with ANYTHING, and throw something different everytime. Very unorthodox..

[abadger]

But what are the technical no-nos you are referring to?

And what was sloppy?

Floyd Mayweather jumps in with his punches quite a bit.

Pawing with your jab isn't being sloppy - it's something 99% of boxers do when they aren't firing it with authority - just like Roy.

Etc, etc.

Sloppy? You'll have to explain what was exactly and what was the techinical no-no.

I already explained them to you, why are you still asking the same question? You appear to be under the impression I think Roy is in some way 'bad', I don't, but I anyone can see Roy's technical flaws. In case you missed first time.

1) Tendency to leap in behind punches, particularly the left hook. Roy would very often have his feet off the floor when landing this.

2) Defense. Roy's defense often consisted of little more than backing away very fast with his hands lifted above his head.

3) Jab. Roy neglected this throughout his career in favour of loose lead rights and hooks. He would often leave himself wide open when throwing these, but his speed always made up for it. When Roy did jab, he rarely did so with any authority.

4) Ropes. Roy would often simply lean back out of range of his opponents punches with his chin hanging in the air, dangerous should he miscalculate. He also was not that good at fighting off the ropes either, often simply seeking to weather the storm.

Don't waste your time disagreeing with me over any of this, you will only be doing so because of our mutual dislike. We both know it is perfectly correct, but if you want to cry because I term it 'sloppy' rather than 'not textbook' then you are perfectly free to do so.

[rizkybizness]

I already explained them to you, why are you still asking the same question? You appear to be under the impression I think Roy is in some way 'bad', I don't, but I anyone can see Roy's technical flaws. In case you missed first time.

1) Tendency to leap in behind punches, particularly the left hook. Roy would very often have his feet off the floor when landing this.

2) Defense. Roy's defense often consisted of little more than backing away very fast with his hands lifted above his head.

3) Jab. Roy neglected this throughout his career in favour of loose lead rights and hooks. He would often leave himself wide open when throwing these, but his speed always made up for it. When Roy did jab, he rarely did so with any authority.

4) Ropes. Roy would often simply lean back out of range of his opponents punches with his chin hanging in the air, dangerous should he miscalculate. He also was not that good at fighting off the ropes either, often simply seeking to weather the storm.

Don't waste your time disagreeing with me over any of this, you will only be doing so because of our mutual dislike. We both know it is perfectly correct, but if you want to cry because I term it 'sloppy' rather than 'not textbook' then you are perfectly free to do so.

Get over yourself. Roy never lost until he was past his prime.

[KJB]

If Roy is God, Tarver is Jesus and the Holy Spirit put together..
you cant say Roy was pass his prime when he lost

Yes, you absolutely can say that. I think most would agree he was past his prime when he got in with Ruiz.

[abadger]

Get over yourself. Roy never lost until he was past his prime.

Absolutely correct. Unless I am much mistaken though, this thread does appear to be titled "Was prime Jones the most perfect fighter ever?", so I feel it is an appropriate place to discuss the technical aspects of his game.