was prime roy jones the most perfect fighter ever?

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  • Kris Silver
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    #41
    Not being funny, but IMDAZED, you can be pretty pedantic. badge was listing area's where Roy is sloppy. Nothing more, nothing less. You pushed for more, you don't like the answers and now reduced to saying it's un othodox and he got away with.

    Well great, testament to his ability then, fab fighter. But sloppy in the said area's isn't overly unfair. You can't easily make the case that say, Leanard or Mayweather are more sloppy than Roy.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      Originally posted by KrisSilver
      Not being funny, but IMDAZED, you can be pretty pedantic. badge was listing area's where Roy is sloppy. Nothing more, nothing less. Your now reduced to saying it's un othodox and he got away with. Well great, testament to his ability then, fab fighter. But sloppy in the said area's isn't overly unfair. You can't easily make the case that say, Leanard or Mayweather are more sloppy than Roy.
      Define sloppy, please.

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #43
        the question to this thread should be is Roy one of the most fluent fighters ever

        the answer is yes he is up their with Muhammad Ali,SRL in terms of fluency and cordination etc

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #44
          Most physically gifted fighter? Perhaps. Perfect fighter? Of course not. Many a boxer have gotten KTFO trying to imitate Roy's hands down style.

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          • Kris Silver
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            #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Define sloppy, please.
            sloppy:
            # Marked by a lack of neatness or order; untidy.
            # Marked by a lack of care or precision.

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            • bsrizpac
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              #46
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Define sloppy, please.
              Here, I'll define it for you:


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              2 entries found.

              1. sloppy
              2. sloppy joe


              Main Entry:
              slop·py Listen to the pronunciation of sloppy
              Pronunciation:
              \ˈslä-pē\
              Function:
              adjective
              Inflected Form(s):
              slop·pi·er; slop·pi·est
              Date:
              1672

              1 a: wet so as to spatter easily : slushy
              b: wet or smeared with or as if with something slopped over

              2: slovenly , careless


              3: disagreeably effusive

              Funny, when I think of number 2 I think Joe C's arm "punches". Or if that offend anyone UFC fighters "punching technique".

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              • IMDAZED
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                #47
                Originally posted by KrisSilver
                sloppy:
                # Marked by a lack of neatness or order; untidy.
                # Marked by a lack of care or precision.
                Thanks. Just wanted to point out that throwing a lead left hook isn't sloppy. Neither is covering up or not being a very good fighter with your back against the ropes.

                And that was my point. Being unorthodox isn't being sloppy - being sloppy is when you do things BADLY - or the definition you just put up.

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                • THE REED
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                  Most physically gifted fighter? Perhaps. Perfect fighter? Of course not. Many a boxer have gotten KTFO trying to imitate Roy's hands down style.
                  actually roy got knocked out imitating roy

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                  • Ryn0
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Joshua Clottey
                    No, I think Sugar Ray Leonard was more complete.
                    Ray Robinson is, Roy had ALOT of flaws, his speed and reflexes covered those flaws

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                    • SpArKeD-CoLd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Absolutely not. Roy was really quite sloppy technically and not a very sound defensive boxer. He may be the most gifted athlete ever to box but he's certainly not the 'perfect fighter'.

                      I personally rate Mayweather as a better fighter than Roy, he had speed and skill like Roy did but knew how to harness it into a schooled boxing game. Mayweather at his best is closer to unbeatable than Roy at his best IMO.

                      Neither are better than Sugar Ray Leonard, beyond that I couldn't say.
                      T-W-A-T

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