Roy will win if he conditions will Mackie Shilstone???

[T-97]

Stop him? No, I seriously do not see it happening. Roy would have to put together combos and mount a sustained assult, which I have not seen anything to suggest he can do anymore.

I think he could drop him, I was right on B Hop dropping him, and I got a feeling Roy will as well. If it does happen it will be in the first 6 rounds, Joe has a tendacy to square up a little and if Roy catches him with a quick right hand he could very well drop Joe

That's what I think it comes down to. Roy could win, but he has to sustain it and at the crazy pace Calzaghe sets....

I don't think he can, but of course I may be wrong. I'm really not bothered who wins this fight, if Joe wins cool. If Roy wins, cool.

Oh **** y'all then

No one wants to talk to me

[Jose Rizal]

I even think Calzaghe slaps silly the Tarver and Johnson that stopped Roy.

[rizkybizness]

****in A...

I still love you tho. Don't get dat **** twisted, kuh.

[abadger]

Wow, 50% of what he did against Kessler? Thats ridiculous... Kessler is a one dimensional boxer, I cant see how you can even fathom the conversation of comparing these two fighters... and he has shown up for a fight... and has looked better than he has in a long time with a different style... ive said it over and over again and i dont feel like continuing to repeat it... does beating hanshaw and tito mean roy is back? of course it doesnt... but it does look as though he is incorporating a new style that is much more conservative and doesnt rely solely on reflexes, and still uses his in tact hand eye coordination to block punches... blah blah blah....

basically your conclusion of roy right now is hes so shot, he shouldnt have enough stamina to roll out of bed, i completely and utterly disagree with you, so theres no point.

You drew the Kessler and Roy comparison not me, I was talking about what Calzaghe did in the fight, which was great movement, angles, countering, mixing up his punches, a complete boxing performance basically which I don't think today's Roy could handle at all, he's too immobile. 50% was an exaggeration, but I feel the need to point out that calzaghe himself is one of the most skilled and unpredictable boxewrs in the world, a fact which many posters here are in almost complete denial about.

As for that Kessler comparison, I do believe Kessler is better than 2008 Roy Jones and would beat him quite easily.

As for what Roy has left, I don't think he is completely and utterly shot, he can still beat lesser guys, but i don't think he has close to enough left to be able to live with Calzaghe, todays P4P #2.

[Unknown Champ]

why can't mackie help roy??

[rizkybizness]

You drew the Kessler and Roy comparison not me, I was talking about what Calzaghe did in the fight, which was great movement, angles, countering, mixing up his punches, a complete boxing performance basically which I don't think today's Roy could handle at all, he's too immobile. 50% was an exaggeration, but I feel the need to point out that calzaghe himself is one of the most skilled and unpredictable boxewrs in the world, a fact which many posters here are in almost complete denial about.

As for that Kessler comparison, I do believe Kessler is better than 2008 Roy Jones and would beat him quite easily.

As for what Roy has left, I don't think he is completely and utterly shot, he can still beat lesser guys, but i don't think he has close to enough left to be able to live with Calzaghe, todays P4P #2.

The question is, can Roy roll out of bed?

[abadger]

The question is, can Roy roll out of bed?

He can even jump, but only on a good day.

[T-97]

why can't mackie help roy??

Mackie can condition you, and get you in shape. But he doesn't win the fights, all of his best accomplishments have been people moving up in weight, not for the same weight.

Mackie trained Hopkins, and Hopkins still didn't win. I doubt Mackie will make a difference to this, it really is about what legs Roy has left imo.

[rizkybizness]

He can even jump, but only on a good day.

Maybe Joe will get lucky and Roy will fracture a hip making his way into the ring.

[THE REED]

You drew the Kessler and Roy comparison not me, I was talking about what Calzaghe did in the fight, which was great movement, angles, countering, mixing up his punches, a complete boxing performance basically which I don't think today's Roy could handle at all, he's too immobile. 50% was an exaggeration, but I feel the need to point out that calzaghe himself is one of the most skilled and unpredictable boxewrs in the world, a fact which many posters here are in almost complete denial about.

As for that Kessler comparison, I do believe Kessler is better than 2008 Roy Jones and would beat him quite easily.

As for what Roy has left, I don't think he is completely and utterly shot, he can still beat lesser guys, but i don't think he has close to enough left to be able to live with Calzaghe, todays P4P #2.

doing all those angles, countering, and mixing it up, is a lot easier to do on a one dimensional fighter... add that on to the fact that was at super middleweight...

at light heavyweight, he was dropped, and didnt look good at all, he won a split decision against a guy whose 42 and barely throws any punches... bernard had one punch all night, the right hand, and it landed over and over.. bernard got tired, and that was that... i believe roy is faster, stronger, and has better stamina than bernard, hes slicker than a kessler, and even possibly a bernard... if joe or any of his fans think he will just walk right through roy with no problem it wont happen... win lose or draw... it wont happen.


i am retired from this thread, **** you.