Margarito would stop Mayweather inside 8 rounds

[loui_ludwig]

Not a fan of Mayweather but he takes this by UD. PBF has better skillls and defense.

[BlackHat]

If he put the kind of pressure on Floyd that he put on Cotto, Floyd crumbles in about 7 rounds. Cotto is a small Welter, so is Floyd. Tony would crush little Floyd.

Cotto tried everything he could to keep Tony off him and it failed. Cotto was elusive and hit Tony with everything he could. Eventually that PRESSURE got to him. The size difference was a huge factor.

Floyd has never put out as much, offensively, as Cotto did that night. I don't see Floyd doing as well as Miguel in a fight with Margarito. Tony would do what Castillo couldn't. He'd stop Floyd in devastating fashion just past the midway point!

In your dreams.

[Kilrain]

It's a toughie. But Mayweathers skills are different to Cottos, I mean, Cotto, despite being an excellent boxer, being very fast and sharp, has always had that ***** in his armour, this impression you got watching him that, at some point, the rails come off, I mean, he wasn't infallible. He had trouble with punchers (Torres), even non-punchers (Corley), Floyd is different, he handled virtually everyone with ease(minus one off-night/damaged hand/vs. freakish Castillo performance), he encountered many different styles and defused opponents strengths, he had such an inbuilt radar to judge the distance of punches, and he was so adept at wriggling out of clinches and keeping people in clinches when he wanted. He so very rarely got caught cleanly, and he basically never got caught with 2 successive punches, this ability to keep fighters off rhythm would work for him I think, it's just dependant on whether he can mount enough offence to win it, I dont think he'd be too keen on seeking out Tony, but I say he can drop in enough right hand counters and occasional body shots, basically cleaner work, to W12 Tony, it's a big physical challenge and I think he could meet it; he's the generations best boxer

[KostyaTszyu44]

umm yeah floyd is one SMART fighter...

he would dance, work the body, clinch when needed, nail marg with counters, and generally make him look bad

also, floyd wouldnt slow down at all and has a much better chin than cotto...and of course his incredible D

its actually a very winnable fight for floyd

[KostyaTszyu44]

You cant get much more accurate than Cotto was on that nite. He was torpedoing Margarito's face for much of the nite and Tony kept coming. Sorry Floyd fans, I do agree with the original OP. I think Floyd knows this too, thats why the Margarito fight was never made. People act as though The punch stat numbers will be Mayweather 900 thrown 900 connected and Margarito 1500 thrown and 0 connected. Mayweather would taste more leather in a Margarito fight than in any other he's ever been in. He will be pressured all nite. He has a tendency to get jammed up on the ropes by smaller men, like Hatton. The Mayweather that fought Hatton would get killed by Margarito.

umm taste more leather than ever before??

have you ever seen floyd get hit cleanly all night???

hes faced guys who are waaay more accurate with their shots such as DLH, castillo, corrales, judah etc these guys have tons more skill and accuracy than marg and they all have failed to bust floyd up.....

[Pugilistic™]

Margaritos pressure won't amount to anything, Mayweather would pot shot all night and use his top notch defense to block Margaritos slow punches.

Mayweather UD.

[poeticlsykuac]

Ok this is my take on the fight. Not that anyone asked. Tony is a very special high output fighter. He isn't like a Oscar or a Castillo. He throws over 100 punches a round and grows stronger. Castillo grows stronger but he doesn't hit with the same authority or quantity as Tony.

His beard is all second to none. Mayweather has always been able to bust up fighters and keep them off of him with precision punching. Tony has to tough a beak for that. Mayweather would also be forced to fight more often then he wants or sacrifices losing the fight. He fought DLH perfectly being the smaller man. DLH used poor tactics in that he tried to look like the aggressor which he obviously was. He was ineffective, PBF made him look bad. He made him miss and didn't let anything big land.

Tony beats up on the body and whether you realize it or not seems to find a way to get to it early in most cases softening up opponents for later in the fight. Cotto was a perfect example, a lot of body work was put in that went unnoticed by the HBO crew. Tony was undeterred by Cotto's pin point accuracy and power(he has more then PBF).

PBF would have to fight, if he threw his usual 50-60 punches a round he would lose just on output. Doesn't matter if guy A lands 25+/60 punches if guy B throws 100 and gets you 25+, B will still look like the winner. He pushed the fight. If PBF is forced to throw 100 punches a round to keep off Tony that will provide a lot of opportunities to be hit by something big. Tony has enough power to break down PBF if he lands at 20 punches a round(which 20% wouldn't be bad).

People forget Tony prefers to punching you anywhere arms, elbows, shoulders, hands, as well as body and face. He will hit you where you let him, and because he constantly throws punches even in clinches(something little PBF likes to do). Tony seems to gauge his distance very well at particular points.

PBF has the best the best defense in recent history. He makes you miss and makes you look ******. Counter punching and pin point accuracy get him his victories. However PBF knows that those tactics don't work in a high output fight, especially when you face a guy that always likes to have the last say in a punching exchange. If PBF throws a punch Tony will throw back he comes to fight.

Basically I think PBF would be forced to fight a very uncomfortable and win or lose he will be beat up by the end of the fight. PBF would have to fight the fight of his life, for the first time he may be facing a fighter with as good or better stamina.


I think that PBF would for the first time face a fighter his defense doesn't have the answer for. PBF would be forced to fight a very high output fight which is difficult to carry a perfect fight through. Impossible without getting caught by a heavy handed Tony. Tony wins a boring bicycle fight due to PBF running, Tony doesn't win looking good. Just purely on high pressure high output fighting. PBF thinks he won due to his efficiency.

Tony is a terrible stylistic match up to PBF. His size and output are huge. As far as his come first style, that is made for PBF. But because PBF is not use to having to fight, against Tony you have to win(PW had to fight). PBF couldn't make Tony respect him with any of his shots and that is the key. His holding would be negated because Tony constantly throws punches even in a clinch. Tony throws punches from awkward angles. Just a lot of things that aren't good for a smaller fighter like PBF. PBF may win but I just see a work rate victory for Tony that is highly controversial due to PBF's better efficiency.

[BennyST]

I know this is just a thread to get the trolls trolling and to try to stir up argument, but, the simple fact is that Cotto actually fought a terrible fight. Margarito had trouble landing on Cotto who lay on the ropes all night, never clinched, ran too much when he didn't need to, tried to KO Marg ... there were so many things wrong with the way he fought him that it is insane to think Mayweather would fight even remotely similar.

Cotto could have won that fight really quite easily if he had had the right training and game plan. As it is though, and in relation to the thread, Mayweather would beat Marg embarrassingly easy. You saw Cotto, when he was in defensive mode on the ropes, making Tony miss wildly. Mayweather is always in defensive mode and is well beyond Cotto's level at doing it. Quite simply Marg would not be able to land much, if anything, meaningful at all on Mayweather.

Mayweather would also be smart enough to move only small amounts when needed. Just the right amount of lateral movement to throw Marg out and put him off balance and in place to be countered. The majority of the fight would be in the centre of the ring and Marg is not good at fighting at that range. He would not be able to get anything to land and Mayweather would out-box him and land straight rights all night.

Even though Marg beat Cotto, Cotto would still have a much, much greater chance at beating Mayweather. If Cotto knew how to box properly, as in not laying on the ropes, fighting in the middle of the ring, only using the necessary lateral movement and punching with speed, not power, and knowing how to clinch he would dominate Margarito nearly as one-sided as Mayweather would.

Boring fight and an easy victory for Mayweather.

[Jose Rizal]

If he put the kind of pressure on Floyd that he put on Cotto, Floyd crumbles in about 7 rounds. Cotto is a small Welter, so is Floyd. Tony would crush little Floyd.

Cotto tried everything he could to keep Tony off him and it failed. Cotto was elusive and hit Tony with everything he could. Eventually that PRESSURE got to him. The size difference was a huge factor.

Floyd has never put out as much, offensively, as Cotto did that night. I don't see Floyd doing as well as Miguel in a fight with Margarito. Tony would do what Castillo couldn't. He'd stop Floyd in devastating fashion just past the midway point!

Cotto's good but he's not even close to Mayweather in ability. He doesn't have Floyd's defensive acumen and versatility. He doesn't have the kind of reflexes and quickness to be as slick as Floyd and he doesn't have the stamina to be elusive for 12 grueling rounds like Floyd can. Cotto also made a lot of tactical mistakes in that fight that bit him in the ass in the long run. Floyd's a lot smarter in the ring and won't make the same mistakes.

The thing with Floyd is that he doesn't have to put out as much as Cotto did, he only has to frustrate the bigger but slower fighter all night and make him miss a lot while doing enough damage to out point the guy..

[poeticlsykuac]

I know this is just a thread to get the trolls trolling and to try to stir up argument, but, the simple fact is that Cotto actually fought a terrible fight. Margarito had trouble landing on Cotto who lay on the ropes all night, never clinched, ran too much when he didn't need to, tried to KO Marg ... there were so many things wrong with the way he fought him that it is insane to think Mayweather would fight even remotely similar.

Cotto could have won that fight really quite easily if he had had the right training and game plan. As it is though, and in relation to the thread, Mayweather would beat Marg embarrassingly easy. You saw Cotto, when he was in defensive mode on the ropes, making Tony miss wildly. Mayweather is always in defensive mode and is well beyond Cotto's level at doing it. Quite simply Marg would not be able to land much, if anything, meaningful at all on Mayweather.

Mayweather would also be smart enough to move only small amounts when needed. Just the right amount of lateral movement to throw Marg out and put him off balance and in place to be countered. The majority of the fight would be in the centre of the ring and Marg is not good at fighting at that range. He would not be able to get anything to land and Mayweather would out-box him and land straight rights all night.

Even though Marg beat Cotto, Cotto would still have a much, much greater chance at beating Mayweather. If Cotto knew how to box properly, as in not laying on the ropes, fighting in the middle of the ring, only using the necessary lateral movement and punching with speed, not power, he would dominate Margarito nearly as one-sided as Mayweather would.

Boring fight and an easy victory for Mayweather.

Your analysis bothers me because you talk of what Cotto did wrong, but not what Margarito forced him to do. Mayweather is the man at defense but fighting a guy who throws 100 hard punches a round changes the aspect of the fight. Making someone miss 1000+ times is a lot of work, especially if you want to win the fight with a low out put. Margarito chased Cotto and Cotto played stick and move quite a bit. Margarito had will breaking pressure. PBF has a much harder will to break mind you, but you have to throw high output to beat a fighter like Margarito if you don't have the power to hurt him.

Defense only goes so far his one punch pop shots won't work against a fighter that throw punches every second and a half. It isn't Margarito's abilities, PBF is far more skilled and intelligent. It is Margarito's chin, will, stamina, output, power, angles, and tenacity that would give PBF problems. This isn't Hatton or DLH, Tony throws punches in bunches and never stops.