Trinidad vs. Calzaghe @ 166 in 2001

[boxasmash]

i dont think joe could ever gt down to 166 - he literally kills himself to make 168.

but for the purpose of this match up lets just imagine a scaled down joe calzaghe. imo it would be a lacy-esque schooling. joe would just stay away from titos left hook and even if it does land i reckon joe could quite easily shake it off - he has an iron chin and has never been hurt as far as i can remember.

daggy (interim champ) how the hell do you justify saying that joe is not clever as hopkins. joeimho is twice as smart as hopkins is!!! look at their fight and and joe does to hopkins what hopkins constantly ****s on about ('i take their best weapon and turn it against them'), hopkins didn't land the counter straight right very often after rnd 4/5.

ifh hopkins was realy that smart he would have managed to find another punch to land against calzaghe - an uppercut on the inside maybe.

danny st completely agree with what you said - spot on.

he was 166 3/4 against kessler, whats 3/4 of a lb?

to answer the question, ANYONE who picks trinidad knows NOTHING about boxing.

calzaghe by manfredo like beatdown (only with real power punches, not slaps)

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bitter about that decision I see. No way was that a gift, gimmie a break.

Bitter? Thats his entire reason for posting on this forum.

[AntonTheMeh]

i think people are looking at the old trinidad of triniweight[170]
calzaghe doesn't try to outbox you.it woulda been a brawl for sure, i say tito by dec.tito was the better fighter at the time.

[Ryn0]

Back when Calzaghe could actually punch and not slap? Calzaghe stoppage. Watch the Woodhall and Brewer fights.

[bsrizpac]

Back when Calzaghe could actually punch and not slap? Calzaghe stoppage. Watch the Woodhall and Brewer fights.

Tito loses to Calzaghe. Not because of size (so sick of hearing that one) but because of the fact that Tito always does bad against fast moving slick boxers. Calzaghe won't get caught in his trap and will outbox him to a UD.

He would NOT KO Tito. Tito's only been KOed once, but he might KD him once (near the end like Lacy from exhaustion). It's also possible that Tito could catch Joe and KD him once but Joe has good enough recovery powers that he takes this one.

Joe - UD.

[AntonTheMeh]

Tito loses to Calzaghe. Not because of size (so sick of hearing that one) but because of the fact that Tito always does bad against fast moving slick boxers. Calzaghe won't get caught in his trap and will outbox him to a UD.

He would NOT KO Tito. Tito's only been KOed once, but he might KD him once (near the end like Lacy from exhaustion). It's also possible that Tito could catch Joe and KD him once but Joe has good enough recovery powers that he takes this one.

Joe - UD.

calzaghe is not slick boxer.he is a volume puncher.
lacy was never the kinda fighter that tito was at the time.never.to compare that tito to manfredo or lacy is ****ing ******.

[abadger]

calzaghe is not slick boxer.he is a volume puncher.
lacy was never the kinda fighter that tito was at the time.never.to compare that tito to manfredo or lacy is ****ing ******.

Calzaghe can box. I refer you to his fight with Mikkel Kessler. He outboxed a textbook boxer in that one, volume didn't have all that much to do with it.

[bsrizpac]

calzaghe is not slick boxer.he is a volume puncher.
lacy was never the kinda fighter that tito was at the time.never.to compare that tito to manfredo or lacy is ****ing ******.

He can be a slick boxer. I agree he's a volume puncher but that's against guys he can't outbox.

I think Tito is WAY better than Lacy. But again I think the style matchup would be similar.

Tito has massive power so he could always take someone out with one shot, but I don't see that happening. Tito has problems with movers. Calzaghe moves.

That's all. And i"m not a Joe fan at all.

[AntonTheMeh]

Calzaghe can box. I refer you to his fight with Mikkel Kessler. He outboxed a textbook boxer in that one, volume didn't have all that much to do with it.

he didn't necessarily outbox kessler.i thought he won on activity.landing more.that's not outboxing necessarily.

He can be a slick boxer. I agree he's a volume puncher but that's against guys he can't outbox.

I think Tito is WAY better than Lacy. But again I think the style matchup would be similar.

Tito has massive power so he could always take someone out with one shot, but I don't see that happening. Tito has problems with movers. Calzaghe moves.

That's all. And i"m not a Joe fan at all.

i could a agree with this assessment.

[Ryn0]

Tito loses to Calzaghe. Not because of size (so sick of hearing that one) but because of the fact that Tito always does bad against fast moving slick boxers. Calzaghe won't get caught in his trap and will outbox him to a UD.

He would NOT KO Tito. Tito's only been KOed once, but he might KD him once (near the end like Lacy from exhaustion). It's also possible that Tito could catch Joe and KD him once but Joe has good enough recovery powers that he takes this one.

Joe - UD.

He does have trouble with fast moving fighters and will proberbly go down. I think Calzaghe's punching power will certainly favour him in this fight. Calzaghe was primarily known as a high volume power puncher.

I think Calzaghe will systematically wear him down and hopefully the ref will stop it as I see tito would eat far to much punches. Tito needs room to get his left hook off and need to be set Hopkins showed that when you take away tito's room and off set his timing he cannot get off that brilliant left hook. Calzaghe's constant movement and work rate would make sure tito is always moving and never set. I certainly don't think Calzaghe will KO the man but I think Tito will absorb too much punishment over the course of the fight that the ref stops it. I believe Winky could have stopped Tito is he had a higher workrate.