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  • Domain
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    #41
    Originally posted by Royal Burnell
    I think some people can make the switch. If we can break the bullshido in '92, we certainly can do it now.

    When I started following MMA in '03, I wasn't thinking about how this would "beat boxing". I saw this as a new viable way for martial artist to earn a living and gain some recognition.

    Besides, a lot of the boxing haters are noobs who hang off Dana White's every word and wear Affliction shirts.

    opps.
    this is why dana white is so powerful he has that power to control lemmings they take dana's word for gospel.

    I happen to be within the few who enjoy both MMA and Boxing...I was more of a Pride fan because I couldnt stand those ufc fan boys even though I watched ufc back in the day.

    I just do not see MMA/Boxing card working...if this was Japan it will work big time! or even if it was Russia it would work, or even phillipines it would work to have boxing and MMA on the same card because in those countries they do not have this boxing vs mma **** going on.

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      #42
      Originally posted by nbk187
      I don't agree with any of this ****. Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Mayweather eventually, all huge stars. Not to mention many, many more. MMA fans like mma, the real fans, the mainstream like the excitement. Look at Anderson Silva, he's black, and he's the most hyped fighter in the UFC. A lot of mma fighters can't even speak English, Rampage was a huge star too. I think this is great for both, **** the UFC and any monopoly, I love both sports, and this is a dream come true if it's pulled off right.
      Anderson Silva was not accepted with open arms especailly after he beat up rich franklin dana whites american goody two shoes poster boy.
      Rampage was booed and not accepted with open arms, as well as rashad.

      They had to warm up to them this is the truth, when anderson won that title they kept looking for a great white hope to beat him and looking for someone to dethrone him...it wasnt like oh I am a new fan! on sherdog they were saying oh who can we get to take the belt back!

      such a shame really Anderson silva is the closest thing to a technical boxer in MMA the guy is simple beautiful to watch and so crisp but yet they wanted him to be dethroned badly.

      even calling on dana to bring matt lindland back lol damn and matt lindalnd is the most boring guy too.

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      • Kakutogi-Gumi
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        #43
        Well then cater to the hardcore then and **** the noobs.

        I'm not going to take potatos out of potato salad because some douche don't like potatos. ****'em! I'm making potato salad!

        You instigate more then help y'know.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Royal Burnell
          Well then cater to the hardcore then and **** the noobs.

          I'm not going to take potatos out of potato salad because some douche don't like potatos. ****'em! I'm making potato salad!

          You instigate more then help y'know.
          I am not trying to instigate man just giving the guy an example because he made it out like they accepted those guys right off the bat when this is not true, I am pretty much a hardcore MMA fan and watch many fights at hooters and I am like the only black dude there most of the time.


          The powerful thing about MMA or UFC in America is it reaches the White audience which boxing hasn't grasped in ages.

          If I was a business man I have to think like this I hope you understand Royal I am not being racist just speaking what goes on in a business guys head but does not come out of their mouth to the public...its simple really target core demographic then you go for expansion.

          That is why now UFC is expanding to foreign soil but the funny thing is they want to go to the White countries aggressively like europe england, germany...they have yet to but keep saying they will put a show in the filipines, or mexico but I think those places will be the last.

          The bottomline is not because they are White but because the white countries have the money so they will try their darndest to appeal to that demographic.

          that is why you do not see dana white going to brazil even though that is the brithplace of modern mma.

          what kinda money is he gonna get their that country is hella poor.

          I hope this makes sense from a business stand point its not intended to instigate.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Domain
            that is why you do not see dana white going to brazil even though that is the brithplace of modern mma.
            Japan is the birthplace.

            And they're working on a show there.

            Also...Philippines India and Macao are white countries?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Royal Burnell
              Japan is the birthplace.

              And they're working on a show there.
              japan was that modern pancrase thing started by tigermask right? shooto? UFC is what Im talking about bro.

              Rorion gracie started that up no holds barred you could hit with closed fists.

              anyway as far as them putting a show in JApan Thats what they say man but they probably aint gonna do that till they get germany established.

              If they wanted to keep the japan market they would of Kept PRIDE alive erh im getting pissed now! I ****ing hate what they did to Pride they said they would keep it alive in japan.

              They kept the WEC alive.

              They keepy saying PRIDE was so ****ed up but they basically bought it out for 60 million...they could of kept it alive and made money over seas as well I am sure they could of with the right financial advisers.

              as far as the phillipines even though they are 3rd world they have the potential to make money their cause of a large rich chinese and korean contingent I heard they have either ****** rich or ****** poor no inbetween or middle class.

              oh ya it doenst really have to do with being White but what I mean is White equals the Money they have more money in America as well and more numbers so that is why they target that neglected market, whites were being neglected when it came to boxing.

              anyway im going to sleep Im tired and gotta go to work early.
              Last edited by Domain; 09-16-2008, 12:50 AM.

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                #47
                Before I go peep this, this is why Boxing will fail with this affliction co pro.

                http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/wou...y-50-a-846604/

                No, I would not. I'm sure that lots of people would.

                I hate boxing. I hate it. I would be pissed every time boxing was on the screen. I'd seriously consider throwing my dog into rear naked choke, just or some action.

                Hopefully though, there are some boxing fans that would watch that card and become interested in MMA. More fans the better, as it increases the number of shows, the pay for the fighters and the strength of the orgs.
                have about 0% interest in boxing, outside of watching KO videos on youtube.
                I will NOT ever buy a PPV with boxing on it. ever! I hate boxing
                Boxing look like a Pillow Fight compared to MMA, so no I wouldn't pay to see that.

                I'd wait until someone uploaded the whole event and then I'd watch the MMA fights for free and barely pay attention to the boxing results as I skipped past the bout.
                I hate boxing and they are trying to revive it, why? This is not what ALL mma fans want.
                Im not sure why they thinks this is gonna work.
                No, I wouldn't pay for this fight. Most of the reason lies with the fact that a 12 round boxing match can easily last half the night, and on top of that, I think boxing is boring when compared to MMA. Make the matches last maybe 5 rounds, or else get K-1 fighters in there kicking each other in the face and I would probably watch it.

                I would definitely buy it, however, if they showed all the boxing matches first. I'd just turn the program on halfway through, after they were over.
                Lets say me and my chick want to go see a good movie,Lets say Gladiator.....And they interupt it every 20 minutes and show us 40 minutes of Sleepless in Seattle....Then Gladiator resumes for another 25 minutes or so,,,,,,,,,,Then more Sleepless.......This is how I view it,,this is a ****** and I mean ****** idea.
                Sorry but I seen some supposed great boxing matches and they don't compare to MMA, In MMA you have a chess match Boxing is boring and drawn out and weak. I would watch it if I wanted to fall asleep

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                  #48
                  Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy Promotions are entrepreneurs. The thing about entrepreneurs, is that they take risks. That is how business ideas get started, with a risk.

                  If boxing is going to get back into the mainstream it is time to start thinking outside the box. There are ways to market this so that MMA fans will find the boxing appealing and vice versa. Perhaps if MMA fans are going to be watching the card, they are going to have to start by matching up boxers who are more all action types, since new fans to the sport aren't ready to appreciate the more scientific Bernard Hopkins type stuff right away.

                  There are ways to market all of this for the idea to grow. Having Fedor come out and give his support to boxing would immediately increase the sports credibility with a lot of MMA fans. Same thing with someone like De La Hoya giving respect to MMA.

                  This might fail, but good for Golden Boy for giving this a try.

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                    #49
                    OMG and here was me thinking Calzaghe, Klitscho and Pavlik were all white... my bad.

                    Domain your a wank stain..

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Domain
                      Before I go peep this, this is why Boxing will fail with this affliction co pro.

                      http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/wou...y-50-a-846604/
                      I'm sure the Sherdog forums is as representative of the MMA community as BS is representative of Boxing.

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