Is #2 Too High a Spot for Calzaghe on the P4P List?

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  • egreezy
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    #71
    Originally posted by abadger
    *sighs..........*
    it is the inevitable sorry, 2XTaylor, Hopkins > Kessler, Hopkins.

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    • abadger
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      #72
      Originally posted by danc1984
      Pavlik is an American you dumb ****. Educate yourself.


      I think Joe deserves the number 2 spot, but I don't think he should go to number 1, even if he beats Roy and Manny loses to Oscar. Pacquiao has beaten 3 genuinely elite p4p fighters in Morales, MAB and JMM of late, that has to override the events of the next few months, regardless of what they may be. For Joe to go to number one he would need to beat a Dawson or a Pavlik and Manny would need to lose to a fighter around his own weight class. That is my take on it anyway.
      I agree. As far as I'm concerned, neither the Roy nor Oscar bouts count in the P4P stakes, unless Pacman wins in which case he becomes uassailable, or Calzaghe loses which will justify a significant drop.

      I am one fair mother****er.

      Can't believe I didn't realise the Pavlik thing though. ******.

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      • Tmb04
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        #73
        Originally posted by egreezy
        not necessarily pavlik can jump to #1 if he beats hopkins. i can see that pissing joe off
        Pavlik is like what like rank 7? the only way he could become number 1 is if:

        1.He's the first person to ever knock Hopkins Out

        2. Pacman loses in both speed and stanima and then is assassinated after the fight...

        3. Joe Calzaghe is exposed and embarrassed by a washed up Jones.

        4. Marquez is Humiliated by Casamayor

        5. Vazquez needs to be killed cuz There still aint a fight lined up 4 him yet.

        6. Margarito becomes Inactive.

        Once 5 out of them 6 things Happens, then Pavlik might have a shot at being the new p4p king

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        • Dan...
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          #74
          Egreezy you are seriously ****n delusional. Kelly could KO Hopkins at the touch gloves, orbit the world in 3.5 seconds and find a solution to world peace and he still wouldn't be close to being #1 p4p.

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          • egreezy
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            #75
            Originally posted by Tmb04
            Pavlik is like what like rank 7? the only way he could become number 1 is if:

            1.He's the first person to ever knock Hopkins Out

            2. Pacman loses in both speed and stanima and then is assassinated after the fight...

            3. Joe Calzaghe is exposed and embarrassed by a washed up Jones.

            4. Marquez is Humiliated by Casamayor

            5. Vazquez needs to be killed cuz There still aint a fight lined up 4 him yet.

            6. Margarito becomes Inactive.

            Once 5 out of them 6 things Happens, then Pavlik might have a shot at being the new p4p king
            haha yeah i wasnt thinking about pacman, i really meant he would jump ahead of calzaghe and bump him down. to take his #2 since hopkins is still at 4. but then i would still put marquez ahead of pavlik. it would be manny, marquez, pavlik, calzaghe, hopkins.
            Last edited by egreezy; 09-11-2008, 10:12 PM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by egreezy
              haha yeah i wasnt thinking about pacman, i really meant he would jump ahead of calzaghe and bump him down. to take his #2 since hopkins is still at 4. but then i would still but marquez ahead of pavlik. it would be manny, marquez, pavlik, calzaghe, hopkins.
              This is still no better. Everything danc1984 just said to you remains true in this case also.

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              • egreezy
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                #77
                Originally posted by abadger
                This is still no better. Everything danc1984 just said to you remains true in this case also.
                no it doesnt remain true i was posting without thinking. the explanation makes sense tho. Manny, Marquez, Pavlik, Calzaghe, Hopkins Top 5 is possible is Pavlik beats bernard and casamayor loses

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by egreezy
                  no it doesnt remain true i was posting without thinking. the explanation makes sense tho. Manny, Marquez, Pavlik, Calzaghe, Hopkins Top 5 is possible is Pavlik beats bernard and casamayor loses
                  What? Marquez doesn't go above Calzaghe for beating Joel Casamayor, and neither does Pavlik for beating Hopkins. I know you would like it to be that way, but thats not how it is.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    What? Marquez doesn't go above Calzaghe for beating Joel Casamayor, and neither does Pavlik for beating Hopkins. I know you would like it to be that way, but thats not how it is.
                    Boxers dont move up in p4p rankings after beating ring champion nowadays? usually they do but i guess not if calzaghe is ahead of them, sorry.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      What? Marquez doesn't go above Calzaghe for beating Joel Casamayor, and neither does Pavlik for beating Hopkins. I know you would like it to be that way, but thats not how it is.
                      Forget it. Pointless. Waste of time.

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