Why are people against Pacquiao-De La Hoya?

[oldgringo]

I don't know either. Anybody who still thinks Oscar is going to take the hardest possible fight out there is living in the 90's.

Back in the day smaller fighters took on larger opponents all of the time, both for monetary purposes and for the challenge. Oscar is taking on a much smaller guy here, but so was Joey Maxim when he took on Ray Robinson. So was Hagler when he took on Duran. I don't believe Hagler/Duran is regarded as a "travesty" or an "insult" to boxing fans.

I will be interested to see it. While I'd rather see Oscar fight Margarito, which would NOT be dominated by Margarito, I can settle for this fight because it involves two high profile fighters who can provide excitement.

*Note on my Margarito statement*

While I believe Margarito would ultimately wear Oscar down to get the win at this point, I think Oscar would be very competitive for the majority of the fight.

[Steak]

Forbes was a former 130lb fighter. Nowadays, Pacquiao is much bigger, faster and a harder puncher than Forbes...not to mention much better conditioned.
look at the second round, especially.

yall cant see Pacquiao having success?

and whats more, De La Hoya is starting to lose more and more late round stamina as he ages. Pacquiao is usually fresh as a daisy in the final rounds, almost always wins late rounds. that has to be a plus for him.

[Eaner0919]

like I said, Pacquiao is pretty huge. hes been weighing in on fight night at 147 anyway, when he was fighting at 130. plus you have to take into account that Oscar might have trouble getting to 147 after being at higher weights for so long. this evens out the size thing a bit. once upon a time Oscar was at 130 too...fighters can gain a lot of weight as their careers go on.

I frankly dont give a damn about titles anymore, theyre almost all worthless nowadays. forget the belts, this is a big fight on its own because of the fighters involved.
And I do believe its going to be a competitive fight.

I also believe the Marquez fight will end up happening. the rematch took a while to make, but it did. as long as Marquez keeps persuing Pacquiao, itll happen.

and Juarez weighed 146 for his fight this past Saturday but do you expect him to get into the ring with Welterweights because of that? also, once DLH makes whatever weight he makes (I doubt he makes 147 and will pay the fine) what's to say he himself wont weight 165? if thats the case with Manny weighing 147 and Oscar 165 isnt that an 18lb weight difference?

this isnt a big fight its a big event much like Mayweather vs DLH. It has no weight on the boxing scene other than it being a mega event. If you are fine with that so be it but I don't really care to see it

and Manny said he is done with 135 after this fight so IMO a JMM fight is out of the picture

[MJ406]

Can you see past the Golden Boy?

I dont get it at all. This is Pacquiao were talkin about...he hasnt been in a dull fight since I dont know when, how is it possibly going to be boring?

not to mention that this fight will be epic with all the hype. yall can say that its a dumb fight because De La Hoya is so much bigger than Pacquiao, but not really. Pacquiao is huge nowadays. hes been weighing around 147 on fight night since he moved up to 130lbs.
and if you havn't noticed, De La Hoya hasn't fought a natural Welterweight in over 2 years...no, hes been fighting guys that came up from Lightweight(ish) and I wouldnt exactly say hes been beating their ass. (Quote)

I think this is a very interesting fight, and one thats going to be entertaining and competitive. (Quote)
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I could throw the exact same question back at you. Why are you so pro DLH/Pacquiao? because you expect it to be entertaining + competitive? good luck with that.

and don't use the hype as a reason why this fight will be epic. Maybe the HYPE will be epic, but come on man, another 24/7 with DLH babbling/bitching for 4 episodes about Roach stabbing him in the back or what ever other BS they try to place in?

the fight might be epically hyped, but as far as an epic fight, we'll have to tune in December 8th, but count me out on that one.

and uh if you consider Pacquiao huge at 5'6 147 .. what's your take on Oscar De La Hoya who's 5'10 and will most likely weigh in the 150's after rehydrating (just a guess, poss more then that)

"***there isn't anything on the line at all. No titles, no true competitive nature, no score to settle (no I dont buy the Oscar reasoning)

it was for money, which isnt itself faultable, I just think that it holds boxing hostage because there could have been stronger matchups than them two facing each other"

again not to group everyone all together but those 2 above reasons are why I believe people are against/dislike this fight. well it's my reasoning for disliking the fight.

and IMO Oscar just needs to retire .. vs Margarito or Cotto or even Sergio Mora tisk tisk, why you people can't realize that with DLH vs Pacquiao Oscar is just promoting himself is beyond me.

and if that's all Oscar's going to do is promote he should stick to promoting

because IMO it's absolute bull**** how Oscar can get ESPN or even this site to refer to HIS fight as "the biggest of the year" or "one of the most significant boxing fights ever"

I mean does Oscar really have the boxing community by the balls that much?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Forbes was a former 130lb fighter. Nowadays, Pacquiao is much bigger, faster and a harder puncher than Forbes...not to mention much better conditioned.
look at the second round, especially.

yall cant see Pacquiao having success?

and whats more, De La Hoya is starting to lose more and more late round stamina as he ages. Pacquiao is usually fresh as a daisy in the final rounds, almost always wins late rounds. that has to be a plus for him.

With all due respect to Manny, he isn’t Forbes nor does he posses the defensive acumen that 2 pounds does…I don’t disagree with your points but it would only take a ‘little’ body work in the early rounds by DLH to wear him down…i’m not counting out PAC’s fighting spirit as I believe, he’ll be able to tag Oscar at times…I just don’t see those punches doing much damage…I’m also not sure he has the technique to get inside that jab…PAC’s wins are usually a result of him breaking down his opponents…opponents HIS size….


But then again, IF (huge if) Oscar slightly buckles after that first straight lands, history might be made…that’s the $50 question that, as a fight fan, I’m forced to pay

[Sox8055]

Forbes was a former 130lb fighter. Nowadays, Pacquiao is much bigger, faster and a harder puncher than Forbes...not to mention much better conditioned.
look at the second round, especially.

yall cant see Pacquiao having success?

and whats more, De La Hoya is starting to lose more and more late round stamina as he ages. Pacquiao is usually fresh as a daisy in the final rounds, almost always wins late rounds. that has to be a plus for him.

Forbes is a way more complete boxer than pac. The reason he bruised DLH was because of his boxing skills, Pacquiao is an agressor and has trouble with counter punchers, DLH easily counters and whats more his left hook hasnt aged at all. Look at the right eye of forbes right after the fight, DLH's left hook will cut Pacquiao's eye easily and give him trouble...

[The Gully Gad]

Im looking forward to the fight myself..
Yeh theres others Hoya could of took on to save face but **** it
Its gonna be exciting anyway

[-MAKAVELLI-]

and one more thing on Forbes, everyone talks about his 'great' performance against Oscar but the bottomline is: he pretty much lost every round of that bout....so much for 'outboxing' oscar

[Steak]

its IS going to be the biggest fight of the year.
extremely important? no. but a ton of people are going to buy it, and its going to get a ton of mainstream attention. thats De La Hoya for ya.

again, why not? I dont see it being a bad fight, and theres no 'must have immediately' fights for either of them.

and its a big fight on its own, who cares if theres titles or anything? if you want to, make believe that its a Mexico Phillipines rivalry, I dont care.

[Steak]

give me a break, Forbes was outboxed by Grady Brewer. lets not overdo it with him. Forbes did most of his damage with a left uppercut and quick combinations...hmmm...seems like Pacquiao could do those things.

Pacquiao has better defense than people give him credit for, and his speed and punch resistance will help him out when his defense slips.