Pavlik resume nearly good as Calzaghe

[Flawless]

All Pavlik needs a retired Champion like Eubank, any ideas

[Shanus]

Try adding longevity to Pavlik's career, and you'll see he isn't anywhere near as accomplished as Calzaghe.

Your logic is ****.

[Gojira]

Lacy = Edison Miranda
Hopkins = Hopkins if he wins
Kessler = Taylor
Eubank = One more experience past his prime fighter and the resume will be the same

Guess What?

[squealpiggy]

Kessler was unproven when Calzaghe fought him, his best win was Mundine
Taylor was proven beating Hopkins twice

What exactly do you mean by "unproven"? He was universally ranked just behind Joe at SMW and had two of the titles. There isn't much more "proven" that you can be.

[Flawless]

What exactly do you mean by "unproven"? He was universally ranked just behind Joe at SMW and had two of the titles. There isn't much more "proven" that you can be.

Beating quality fighters should that you are elite and deserve a title, not beating Mundine in Australia. When he fought an elite fighter we all know what happened

[squealpiggy]

Beating quality fighters should that you are elite and deserve a title, not beating Mundine in Australia. When he fought an elite fighter we all know what happened

How can Calzaghe be an "elite" fighter when by your standards he had not beaten any "elite" fighters?

Also how "elite" was Taylor when he was getting backed up by Cory Stinks?

[Flawless]

How can Calzaghe be an "elite" fighter when by your standards he had not beaten any "elite" fighters?

Also how "elite" was Taylor when he was getting backed up by Cory Stinks?

Eubank is not elite enough
Taylor is elite beating Hopkins twice for MW title is enough

[IMDAZED]

You would be wise to youtube Mikkel Kessler and see him in his fights against Andrade and Beyer. He has also beaten Mundine who was on the Contender season 3.

Well ****, I'm convinced now!

[squealpiggy]

Eubank is not elite enough
Taylor is elite beating Hopkins twice for MW title is enough

But you said that to be "elite" you have to beat an "elite" fighter and that Kessler lost to an "elite" fighter in Calzaghe who had never beaten any "elite" fighters and so was not "elite" at the time.

Do you really rate Taylor though? He edged two razor thin decisions against a complacent and past-it Hopkins then looked like ****e against a succession of Welterweights before getting absolutely wrecked by the first guy his size he faced. The Hopkins wins were decent I suppose but he followed them up with turds.

[M.I Truth ?]

Well ****, I'm convinced now!