Carl Froch...Most avoided Fighter?? or Overhyped british prospect??

[T-97]

And I dont agree that he was P4P material anyway. Very overrated at Middelweight alone

I agree, He should have lost 1 of the Hopkins fights, He struggled against Winky, Spinks and Ouma then got KTFO by Pavlik..

[Dick-Sucker]

So does Manny Pacquiao become a top 3 Welterweight simple cos he's in the top 3 P4P?

Whats Taylor's pedigree at SuperMiddleweight? **** all..........so why does he rank as the 3rd best? Makes no sense at all.

And I dont agree that he was P4P material anyway. Very overrated at Middelweight alone

Using your logic. Hopkins beats Pavlik by stoppage, because Pavlik hasn't fought there. And Kassim Ouma stops Mundine because Mundine hasn't fought there.

It doesn't work that way. Especially not in the instance of Jermain Taylor. Who had Pavlik hurt in the 2nd round, and won the 2nd fight on many scorecards.

[Dick-Sucker]

Plus JT has to be at 3. Because Mundines opponents have been rsl fighters.

[Clegg]

Yeh they do. Theres no comparison. While both may have come up short. There level of opposition is greater.

So your saying Calzaghe and Lacy aren't better than Robin Reid?

I'm saying that I don't rate people based upon who they've lost to.

If I did, prime Eric Crumble would be better than Edwin Valero.

[Dick-Sucker]

I'm saying that I don't rate people based upon who they've lost to.

If I did, prime Eric Crumble would be better than Edwin Valero.

No your misinterpreting my point. Bika gave Calzaghe one of his toughest tests. Manfredo nearly beat Lacy.

Both those achievements are greater than beating Robin Reid who is 8 years past it.

Froch has a padded record. He will fight Pascal, another guy not in my top 10 with a padded record. Froch will win. Froch will fight a real top 10 next, and he will loose.

P.S Inkin is not a top 10 fighter. Hes padded aswell. And hes bad!

I think most people compile lists by looking at ********* bull**** rankings.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Using your logic. Hopkins beats Pavlik by stoppage, because Pavlik hasn't fought there. And Kassim Ouma stops Mundine because Mundine hasn't fought there.

It doesn't work that way. Especially not in the instance of Jermain Taylor. Who had Pavlik hurt in the 2nd round, and won the 2nd fight on many scorecards.

The **** are you talking about?

Im saying Taylor isnt the 3rd best Super Middleweight cos he hasnt done **** at the weight. Once he beats someone, then you can rank him. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm saying that I don't rate people based upon who they've lost to.

If I did, prime Eric Crumble would be better than Edwin Valero.

Zab Judah would be the P4P King.

[Dick-Sucker]

The **** are you talking about?

Im saying Taylor isnt the 3rd best Super Middleweight cos he hasnt done **** at the weight. Once he beats someone, then you can rank him. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

It doesn't work that way.

Your giving Taylor and established lower weight fighters to much disrespect.

Because your giving Taylor the same ranking system as a fighter making his debut.

No No No!

Take off those bias British goggles!

Froch = Hype!

What made me sick is the guy on setanta said hes better than Kessler. Which is total and utter ****. And its a big statement saying hes top 10. Because he just slips in.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It doesn't work that way.

Your giving Taylor and established lower weight fighters to much disrespect.

Because your giving Taylor the same ranking system as a fighter making his debut.

No No No!

Take off those bias British goggles!

Froch = Hype!

What made me sick is the guy on setanta said hes better than Kessler. Which is total and utter ****. And its a big statement saying hes top 10. Because he just slips in.

So is Manny Pacquiao a top 3 Welterweight?

[Dick-Sucker]

So is Manny Pacquiao a top 3 Welterweight?

No because unlike the SMW division. The Welterweight division is loaded.

And your being an idiot. JT moved up 1 division. Not like 3 or 4 like Manny.

I know your understanding this. And i know you realize im right.