When Is there going to be a WW Ring Championship fight???

[Boofdatruth]

Ok and so how does that have to do with The Ring being so corrupt? Wills never got a title shot, but that's not the ring's fault.

The Ring may not be perfect, but it ****s all over the ABC bodies.

I don't care who it ****s on. All the Ring did was try to straighten out the corruption of the sanctioning bodies. This is all well and good. The Ring title and creation was extracted from Ring magazine. Without Ring mag, there is no Ring title. We don't need a new sanctioning body, or a Ring title fight unless we are going to do an overhaul on the rankings of every last fighter in the world.

[Boofdatruth]

Warp is right, Ring > all other bodies.

Boof you should just let it go, he has responded appropriately to everything you have raised and you are on the verge of getting seriously owned.

lol...................................

[Steel Town USA]

I don't see any fights being promoted as the right for the Ring belt. I only recognize the lineal title Gamb. I've been a fan that long lol.

Actually, Hopkins-Wright was promoted as a Ring-only title bout. The IBO wouldn't recognize it because it was at a catchweight. Hopkins proclaimed (like many other fighters) that the Ring belt was the only one that mattered anyway.

[Boofdatruth]

Sorry I don't like to post in pretty colors and big fonts to make it easier for you to read. No wonder the colaition does this.

Let me break it down for you:



So then I brought up the IBC and the NYSAC being owned by mob dealers.



Then I list them being ranked in the top 10 and even gave you a case where a black fighter was ranked over a white one.



It is an official belt. Maybe they should charge 3% of a boxer's purse and assign bogus mandatories like Morrade Hakkar and Gary Lockett so they can be hmm?


Easy to read now or do I have to make them in pretty colors like we're in ****ing kindergarten?

I'm sorry, but did you just try to insult me???. I was just getting ready to say I respect your argument too lol.

[Boofdatruth]

Actually, Hopkins-Wright was promoted as a Ring-only title bout. The IBO wouldn't recognize it because it was at a catchweight. Hopkins proclaimed (like many other fighters) that the Ring belt was the only one that mattered anyway.

This is all well and good for Hop, but for an up and coming fighter, this title means nothing.

[ANDROID_DOES]

Actually, Hopkins-Wright was promoted as a Ring-only title bout. The IBO wouldn't recognize it because it was at a catchweight. Hopkins proclaimed (like many other fighters) that the Ring belt was the only one that mattered anyway.

I think most fighters feel the same way. I don't see how boof disagrees with any of this, but then again he scored clottey-margarito a draw so who knows.

[warp1432]

I don't care who it ****s on. All the Ring did was try to straighten out the corruption of the sanctioning bodies. This is all well and good. The Ring title and creation was extracted from Ring magazine. Without Ring mag, there is no Ring title. We don't need a new sanctioning body, or a Ring title fight unless we are going to do an overhaul on the rankings of every last fighter in the world.

They've clearly established themselves better then all the other bodies out there. They have made a clear top 10 ratings for each division and let the best fight for it.

And based on how corrupt the sanctioning bodies are, I say a new belt that actually follows the rules and has had past credibilty (Like The Ring proved to in the past) should be allowed to do that.

[ANDROID_DOES]

This is all well and good for Hop, but for an up and coming fighter, this title means nothing.

So which title would mean alot for a young fighter? and why would that belt mean more than the ring(the most celebrated belt of them all)?

[Boofdatruth]

boof likes to think outside the box!

I love to argue boxing, and I never try to fit in with my opinion.

[JAB5239]

No it doesn't. The corruption in the 40s and stuff was the IBC and the NYSAC for being run by mob dealers. Nothing for color fighters? That's the racist manager faults for not setting up fights aginst black fighters. Nat Fleschier was never a racist. When a black fighter (Jack Johnson,Joe Louis, Panama Al Brown, etc) became a champion, they ranked him. Also they ranked many black fighters in their top ten rankings.

Jack Dempsey, Champion
Harry Wills
Gene Tunney
Jack Renault
Bud Gorman
George Godfrey
Jack Sharkey
Bob Fitzsimmons
Paolino Uzcudun
Jim Maloney
Harry Persson
King Solomon
Johnny Risko
Ray Neuman
Jim Keeley

Here's them being racist to Harry Wills in 1925 by ranking him over Gene Tunney and Bob Fitzsimmons.

Excellent post!! Green K!