When Is there going to be a WW Ring Championship fight???

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  • ANDROID_DOES
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boofdatruth
    No, I just want to say that Ring mag belt isn't recognized, and it never will be.
    ok that's fine as long as you know you speak for yourself and stand alone in that claim.

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    • Boofdatruth
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      #62
      Originally posted by warp1432
      The champions are still holding on to the belts because it still gives them leeway in negotiating and gets them more of a cut of the purse. But when you have The Ring belt, it means you are the true champion of your division.

      They've help establish for casual fans:

      -The true champion of that division
      -Easy to get rankings that actually explains the changes in them

      That's a very big boost for people. ESPN uses their rankings too so they have gotten somewhere. Most media recognizes them.
      Name the Ring champions in all of the divisions for me if you don't mind.

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      • Boofdatruth
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        #63
        Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
        ok that's fine as long as you know you speak for yourself and stand alone in that claim.
        Look, be a man. Margs will get criticized, and that's it. I'm talking to Warp. He is bringing a great argument. I don't take anything personal. I don't want to own anyone.

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        • warp1432
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          #64
          Originally posted by Boofdatruth
          Did I say your posts were hard to read?, I'll go check...by the way, does the ring mag pertain to all champions, flyweights included? lol
          You said they were convoluted so I helped straighten them out.

          Name the Ring champions in all of the divisions for me if you don't mind.
          Off the top of my head?

          108-Calderon
          122-Vasquez
          135-Casamayor
          140-Hatton
          160-Pavlik
          168-Calzaghe
          175-Calzaghe

          130, 147, and Crusierweight were there until a couple months ago when Pacquiao, Floyd, and Haye vacated. There are vacant belts, but that means the best in the division have to fight each other to do so.

          edit: Oh and yeah, The Ring recognizes all 17 divisions now.

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          • Boofdatruth
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            #65
            Originally posted by warp1432
            The champions are still holding on to the belts because it still gives them leeway in negotiating and gets them more of a cut of the purse. But when you have The Ring belt, it means you are the true champion of your division.

            They've help establish for casual fans:

            -The true champion of that division
            -Easy to get rankings that actually explains the changes in them

            That's a very big boost for people. ESPN uses their rankings too so they have gotten somewhere. Most media recognizes them.
            The champions are still holding on to the belts because it still gives them leeway in negotiating and gets them more of a cut of the purse. But when you have The Ring belt, it means you are the true champion of your division.

            This is not true in all cases. Many a champion has been paid less than the challenger because it comes down to who the draw is also. There are many reasons why fighters want to hold on to their title/s.

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            • ANDROID_DOES
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              #66
              Originally posted by Boofdatruth
              Look, be a man. Margs will get criticized, and that's it. I'm talking to Warp. He is bringing a great argument. I don't take anything personal. I don't want to own anyone.
              your the only one bringing up margarito in this thread No one included myself has said anything about margarito. I don't think you have even criticized him in this thread so why do you keep bringing him up?

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              • Boofdatruth
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                #67
                Originally posted by warp1432
                You said they were convoluted so I helped straighten them out.



                Off the top of my head?

                108-Calderon
                122-Vasquez
                135-Casamayor
                140-Hatton
                160-Pavlik
                168-Calzaghe
                175-Calzaghe

                130, 147, and Crusierweight were there until a couple months ago when Pacquiao, Floyd, and Haye vacated. There are vacant belts, but that means the best in the division have to fight each other to do so.

                edit: Oh and yeah, The Ring recognizes all 17 divisions now.
                So, Cotto-Margs wasn't for the Ring WW title?

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                • ANDROID_DOES
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by warp1432
                  You said they were convoluted so I helped straighten them out.



                  Off the top of my head?

                  108-Calderon
                  122-Vasquez
                  135-Casamayor
                  140-Hatton
                  160-Pavlik
                  168-Calzaghe
                  175-Calzaghe

                  130, 147, and Crusierweight were there until a couple months ago when Pacquiao, Floyd, and Haye vacated. There are vacant belts, but that means the best in the division have to fight each other to do so.

                  edit: Oh and yeah, The Ring recognizes all 17 divisions now.
                  Unlike the wbc the ring will not just give any two guys a shot at their belt. That's why the ring is still vacant and will be challenged for by the number one and two guys in the division. On the other hand the wbc's new champ is berto

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                  • ANDROID_DOES
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Boofdatruth
                    So, Cotto-Margs wasn't for the Ring WW title?
                    they werent ranked 1 and 2

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by -ROGELIO-
                      your the only one bringing up margarito in this thread No one included myself has said anything about margarito. I don't think you have even criticized him in this thread so why do you keep bringing him up?
                      Rog, he's trying to twist the thread after getting his ass handed to him in debate. Trust me, its par for the course.
                      Last edited by JAB5239; 09-04-2008, 11:21 PM.

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