Fighters who need to step up!

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Danny Jacobs.

[Jimmy Dean]

You think that Wlad needs to step up by fighting Haye? Even though Haye has done nothing to prove that he is top 10 in the division?

Biased people like you would simply claim that he still needed to step it up because Haye hasn't proven anything.

Haye is more dangerous than any of the fighters mentioned. Yes I would like to see Wlad fight him.

So when you said about him not fighting top 10 guys, you meant that, 2 years ago, he should've tried to guess who would be in the top 10 in 2008, rather than facing the guys who were in the top 10 at the time?

They were top 10 at the time. Yes? Understand? Who cares if they aren't top 10 now, was he supposed to guess what the rankings were going to be in the future???

When I said that they were not legit top 10 fighters I meant that at the time I did not feel like they were top 10 fighters. I used Lockett as an example where rankings are flat out incorrect. If you think Tony Thompson was actually top 10 in the world then I can't help you.

[RimmyDelicious]

David Haye. For all his talking, he needs to step up and fight a top heavyweight. He talks about Wladimir, then he tries to set up a fight with completely shot, struggles with Taurus Sykes, Hasim Rahman? And to top it off, he ducks James Toney and Eddie Chambers?

Come on, Savior of the Heavyweight Division, fight a top guy to earn your shot!

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Victor Ortiz - i got great confiddence in this kid!! i wanna see him fight more often and higher comp..

[tredh]

I'm not all that impressed with the Peterson brothers which is why I haven't mentioned them.

Berto is an easy one as he is now champ and really needs to step it up.

Wlad has unified some belts and now it's time to go for the big boys of the division.

Not saying that you have to be or should be impressed by the Peterson Bros. because they haven't done anything impressive. But what issue do you have with them? They have looked very well with the opposition that has been placed in front of them even though that hasn't been much. Also Barry Hunter isn't the best trainer in the world.

[Live Dog]

Ok. If it had been me, I would've picked the 3 that need to step it up the most, that's all.



Yeah, but the division is a bit ****ty, isn't it? In my opinion Wlad has done well. He is trying to unify the division, and his last two fights were necessary in order to do that.

He hasn't ducked anyone, there has been no clear challenger over the past couple of years. Peter has emerged as one now, but that's fight isn't yet possible because of them both having other commitments.

I think that his resume just looks worse because of what's available, rather than because of him not taking the hardest fights.

The division is extremely ****ty. And I'm not getting into why certain fights took place or didn't take place. The fact is that he has a chance in the future to make the toughest fights out there.

There is Haye and whether Haye deserves it or not he's the most exciting fight available and a fight the public wants to see.

There is a rematch with Peter who is now the #2 guy and who knocked Wlad down 3 times in the first match.

There is Povetkin if he can stay healthy.

There is that circus freak Valuev, who yes, poses a tougher threat than the likes of Thompson and Sultan.

There is Arreola, who by the time Wlad gets around to fighting him will have proven if he is championship material or not. Least I hope.

[Jimmy Dean]

Not saying that you have to be or should be impressed by the Peterson Bros. because they haven't done anything impressive. But issue do you have with them? They have looked very well with the opposition that has been placed in front of them even though that hasn't been much. Also Barry Hunter isn't the best trainer in the world.

Agreed that Hunter isn't the best trainer for them, and yes they have done very well against their opponents. I guess my problem is that after like 50+ fights between them, I would have liked to see them in there against someone who can challenge them. The fact that they're not leads me to believe that someone close to them feels they are not good enough yet, and if you aren't good enough to fight a good fighter after that many fights you never will be.

Also, there is one brother that I think might have a chance to win a title but I honeslty can't remember which one.

[Clegg]

Haye is more dangerous than any of the fighters mentioned. Yes I would like to see Wlad fight him.

I like Haye too. But on paper I'm not sure that he deserves to be rated in the top 10. It is possible that he will fail at heavyweight at the first hurdle. In my opinion he has not earned his shot yet.

When I said that they were not legit top 10 fighters I meant that at the time I did not feel like they were top 10 fighters. I used Lockett as an example where rankings are flat out incorrect. If you think Tony Thompson was actually top 10 in the world then I can't help you.

Well I'll try and cope without your help. I think Thompson is a good fighter and I think that when deciding who should be regarded as top 10, an unbiased person goes with the sanctioning bodies, boxrec and The Ring. They are flawed, but they are more useful in this discussion than your opinion (or mine, for that matter).

[Jimmy Dean]

I like Haye too. But on paper I'm not sure that he deserves to be rated in the top 10. It is possible that he will fail at heavyweight at the first hurdle. In my opinion he has not earned his shot yet.

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Well I'll try and cope without your help. I think Thompson is a good fighter and I think that when deciding who should be regarded as top 10, an unbiased person goes with the sanctioning bodies, boxrec and The Ring. They are flawed, but they are more useful in this discussion than your opinion (or mine, for that matter).

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[The Hammer]

If you think Tony Thompson was actually top 10 in the world then I can't help you.

Thpmpson has offered to fight Haye, but Haye is ducking him.

I think Thompson (Ring #9 when he fought Wlad), with his awkward southpaw style, long reach, and durability is one of the top ten heavyweights. He put up a better fight against Wlad than Byrd (Ring # 1 at the time) Brock (Ring #2 at the time) Austin (Wlad's IBF mandatory) and Brewster (Ring #7 if I remember correctly).

You come across as being very ****** and ignorant. Wlad is trying to unify the heavyweight titles, so he needs to fight his mandatories - but you can't seem to appreciate that fact.