Why do American Fans Refuse to Accept A European Fighter can be great?

[Clegg]

David Haye thinks this thread is silly.

I always expect great threads from Mayweather fans with red karma bars, but it just never seems to work out very well.

[Left Hook Tua]

So was Alexander The Great Bisexual.

he was greek.

a lot of the greeks and romans were ****s.

the spartans used to have a mentorship program where a young adult would take a young boy under his wing to teach him spartan warriors ways......they would later shag after training.

[Clegg]

he was greek.

a lot of the greeks and romans were ****s.

the spartans used to have a mentorship program where a young adult would take a young boy under his wing to teach him spartan warriors ways......they would later shag after training.

Yeah, I also remember reading that back then it was also a sign of wealth if you were overweight.

So basically 'one of the Greatest civilizations of all time' was just a bunch of fat men getting gay with each other

[Dick-Sucker]

You guys need to respect them more. Its not that they were ****s. The chicks in there tribes were getting uglier as each generation had passed. The **** turn was a last resort and had been planned for generations. The time came, when the **** plan had to be put into action. The chicks had got that ugly, one look at them, would totally fck you up for life. They made a stand. The chicks were forced to take more care of themselves.. And there kids went back off the **** plan, and they had some hot *****!

Now we should all do that for our kids!

That tribe has to be respected!

[Live Dog]

You guys need to respect them more. Its not that they were ****s. The chicks in there tribes were getting uglier as each generation had passed. The **** turn was a last resort and had been planned for generations. The time came, when the **** plan had to be put into action. The chicks had got that ugly, one look at them, would totally fck you up for life. They made a stand. The chicks were forced to take more care of themselves.. And there kids went back off the **** plan, and they had some hot *****!

Now we should all do that for our kids!

That tribe has to be respected!

green k for you

[Bizzle_LDN]

I have been wondering this myself. I think at the end of the day it just comes down to the fact that in sports, we do tend to support (rather than simply appreciate) along nationalistic lines. Everyone does it, its unavoidable IMO.

For Americans the case is compounded by the fact that they have good reason to believe that American boxers are better; they have a long history of producing the largest volume of top-class boxers. Look at HBO and Showtime, there will often be numerous title bouts involving American or American based boxers in any given week at a good time, so Americans have a constant diet of high-level boxing. Compare this with Europeans, throughout the weight divisions we have less alphabet champs and of course Europe is not like America in that a similar landmass is split into many countries, and our nationalistic support means that in general we mostly like only those from our own country. This means to make money european boxers have to concentrate on their 'home' market, which means less exposure than top Americans typically get. Americans constantly see Americans fighting for titles, Europeans not so much. That's really the long and the short of it.

All that said though, i think in general that real boxing fans are always aware of who is good and who is bad, its just that on a forum like this you get a lot of new fans whose only real knoweldge is watching big fights on American TV. They assume Americans are best because its all they know, which is understandable, but I do think that many could do with realising that just because they don't know about something, it doesn't make it inferior. You see this sort of thing time and again with boxers like Calzaghe and Kessler being dismissed as bums, but almost always by people who in all probability have rarely or never seen them fight. How many newish US boxing fans do you think take the time to go back and look over these guys older fights? I'm sure some do, but not many. If I could give one piece of advice to anyone new to the sport of boxing it would be to refrain from commenting on how good a fighter is until you have seen at least a few of his fights!

Great post.

[rizkybizness]

it was okay not really there on vacation i had to spend some time with a friend. it was weeks ago.

i just been busy in the mornings since i came back so i haven't had a chance to bull**** with my buddy live dog. i think you log off by the time i log on.

hurry up and spam some threads so i can bump them. where's rizo? we need rizo.

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

[Clegg]

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

Spongebob?

[rizkybizness]

Spongebob?

Roberto Esponja

[BetterCallSaul]

I rate boxers on individual merit, and their entertainment factor. For example, I respect that Floyd Mayweather is undefeated, faced good opposition, and has become very successful in the sport of boxing. The things I dislike about him are his incredibly defensive style, always on the backfoot, and his general demeanor. So, all in all, I class Floyd Mayweather as a great boxer, but a very boring one. He gets a 6 out of 10 on the timba scale.

Another boxer, say Manny Pacquiao, gets a very generous rating from me. He has fought quality opposition, beat the best, and become a champion at different weights. He is also very watchable and has an aggresive attacking style. He gets a 9 out of 10 on the timba scale.

Rarely do I put my national pride to use when deciding if I like boxers or not.