Bernstein:Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter

[THE REED]

It is, I didn't say he didn't have any fundamentals at all, neither is Bernstein, he just wasn't a great technical fighter.

How is that what he is saying?

"Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter. Never has been a great fighter."

Where does he say Roy is not a great technical fighter?

He is saying Roy isn't a great fighter... and he is wrong.

[Silencers]

How is that what he is saying?

"Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter. Never has been a great fighter."

Where does he say Roy is not a great technical fighter?

He is saying Roy isn't a great fighter... and he is wrong.

Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter. Never has been a great fighter. He never made himself a great fighter. He didn’t work at his craft hard enough to be a great fighter. But he’s a great athlete, and so he ended up being great in the ring. When his quickness and some of his physical skills started to fail him, he had nothing else left to go back to. He didn’t have the technique.

He said he ended up being great in the ring, which means he thought he was a great fighter, just not from a technical standpoint, which is correct.

[THE REED]

No, he is saying because Roy didn't have the technical skills, he was not a great fighter.

Maybe he didn't mean that, but based on that paragraph... he is saying he is just a great athlete and that is it. Because he didn't have good technical abilities, he wasn't a great fighter.

You need more then just being a great athlete to be GREAT in the ring.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

If we gave Kobe Bryant boxing gloves could he go from middle weight to heavyweight and back down just because hes a great athlete?

NO.

Because Roy was more then just a great athlete, he had skills, unorthodox skills, but skills nonetheless. He understood the game, and how to set people up, and that goes beyond just being a good athlete.

And dropping from HW to LHW at the age of 34 1/2 would have a serious effect on ANYBODY. In the Calzaghe fight, you are simply watching a 40 year old man who has been in over 50 fights.

If he dedicated himslef to boxing instead of basketball.....then maybe.

I think you are missing the point Bernstaien was making. He's not dissin roy, he's just pointing out something I have said many times. His natural ability allowed him to win a lot of fights.

Once that was gone, he was unable to fall back on good defense, proper punching with accuracy and countering because his speed and power never made it necessary for him to do that.

Like I said, Bernstein should have changed his words around. Roy was a great FIGHTER but he was not a good BOXER.

[THE REED]

If he dedicated himslef to boxing instead of basketball.....then maybe.

I think you are missing the point Bernstaien was making. He's not dissin roy, he's just pointing out something I have said many times. His natural ability allowed him to win a lot of fights.

Once that was gone, he was unable to fall back on good defense, proper punching with accuracy and countering because his speed and power never made it necessary for him to do that.

Like I said, Bernstein should have changed his words around. Roy was a great FIGHTER but he was not a good BOXER.

That's fine... but Roy was more then just a good athlete. He thought out his moves in the ring, he had tactics.

He definitely worded that wrong. He IS a great fighter, he just didn't have great technical skills.

[hishaam15]

I Dont Remember this Interview but i agree with what the guy above me is saying ^^

[MANGLER]

'RJ ain't a gr8 fighter?'

[ACHlLLES]

Racists always say that about black athletes: that all they have is athletic talent, but they don't work as hard or play the game the right way. It's BS here, just like it always is.

Topic has nothing to do with race you ******, Bernstein probably has Hopkins as one of the best middle weights and hagler. You're a ****ing dumb ass.

[hugh grant]

But RJJ beat Toney. Toney was a great boxer back when RJJ fought him was he? Didnt help him did it against RJJ? Nor did it help BH against RJJ. But you are going to say BH wasnt a great boxer back then excuses. Basically all you need is to be a great athlete to win boxing fights is what RJJ is showing. So he is a great fighter. And no its not a foregone conclusion that an old man BH would beat a young RJJ. That is just speculation gone overboard.

Man, i never thought i would defend RJJ like this!!!!!