Bernstein:Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Bernstein:Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter

    AL Bernstein Q&A

    RD: Do you think Roy Jones’ legacy will be hurt by his recent losses?

    Bernstein: Yes it will. It will because it’s proof positive of something I’ve said many, many times. Roy Jones is a great athlete; he’s not a great fighter. Never has been a great fighter. He never made himself a great fighter. He didn’t work at his craft hard enough to be a great fighter. But he’s a great athlete, and so he ended up being great in the ring. When his quickness and some of his physical skills started to fail him, he had nothing else left to go back to. He didn’t have the technique.

    very controversial

    RD: How will history view Bernard Hopkins?

    Bernstein: Well, I think he’s doing a lot to secure that legacy. As a businessman he could’ve hurt that legacy a lot because he did such a poor job after the Trinidad fight of capitalizing [on it]. But I think he’s one fight away from being thought of as one of the two or
    three best middleweights of all time. He may already be there.

    RD: Where do you rank Lennox Lewis on the all-time Heavyweight Champion list?

    Bernstein: Really high. For this reason, he’s a very big man who has a great jab and a powerful right hand and fights tall. When he’s at his best, who’s going to beat him? If I take Lennox Lewis at his best, fighting as well as he can fight, I don’t know how many heavyweights
    I’d pick him to lose to, simply because of his size and his physical stature and the way he fights. Who’s going to get to him? I don’t know. Not Rocky Marciano.

    RD: Maybe prime Tyson?

    Berstein: No, not Mike Tyson, in my mind. If we see Lewis at his best stylistically, he’s a tough match-up for Tyson. Would Joe Frazier be able to? I don’t know. Stylistically it’s not a good match for him. Would George Foreman be able to do it? The old Foreman would’ve had a hard time because he would have been less skilled. Foreman in later years does have that punishing jab, but that’s nullified by Lewis’ jab.

    Let’s go right to the biggies. Ali. Does Ali have to beat him? I don’t know. Not if Lewis doesn’t chase him and get low, if he stays tall. Why does Muhammed Ali beat him? What does he hit him with?

    Joe Louis, the most skilled heavyweight fighter of all time - possibly too small, [Lennox] Lewis can stay on the outside. Does Louis hit him?

    I don’t know the answer to those questions. While Lennox Lewis’ overall resumé might not rival some of those people, I’m not sure how they beat him.
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    Yeah I have read that comment before and I don't agree with it. Sure Roy's athletic ability has masked some of his minor technical defficiencies over the years but to watch him and say he is not a great fighter is a bit ridiculous in my mind.

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      I somewhat agree with that statement

      When Jones' athleticism and physical skills started to fade he got brutally KO'd twice.
      Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 08-31-2008, 05:53 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by danc1984
        Yeah I have read that comment before and I don't agree with it. Sure Roy's athletic ability has masked some of his minor technical defficiencies over the years but to watch him and say he is not a great fighter is a bit ridiculous in my mind.
        yeah that is a little strange to say the least i can understand the criticism about him not having the fundementals to fall back on but come on not a great fighter

        i respect AL Bernstein's opinion he is very knowledgeable but he does tend to favour technical fighters in an overlybiased way IMO you can tell this by the way he creams over James Toney's defensive skill and counter punching ability and defence

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          Like me, he rates king Lennox highley.

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            #6
            Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
            I agree 100% with that statement

            When Jones' atheliticism and physical skills started to fade he got brutally KO'd twice.
            He is not the first fighter the hit a sharp decline though. Just because you decline quickly doesn't make you an ordinary fighter. He relied on his speed and reflexes for his defence, this is simply a certain type of defensive technique. Once those fail you, you are going to start to struggle. It does not mean you were never a great fighter.

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              #7
              Originally posted by danc1984
              He is not the first fighter the hit a sharp decline though. Just because you decline quickly doesn't make you an ordinary fighter. He relied on his speed and reflexes for his defence, this is simply a certain type of defensive technique. Once those fail you, you are going to start to struggle. It does not mean you were never a great fighter.

              TBH you must be crazy to think the guy is not a great fighter but i can understand the context in what Bernstein is trying to say it i just dont think he did a very good job here

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              • Dynamite Kid
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                i dont know how anyone could say Jones did no work on his craft either because along with Floyd Mayweather you will struggle to find a more intelligent fighter than Roy Jones the guy has a Boxing brain that other more Technical fighter just dont possess

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                • AntonTheMeh
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                  #9
                  well that's a refreshing view.

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                  • BadNewz
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                    #10
                    Racists always say that about black athletes: that all they have is athletic talent, but they don't work as hard or play the game the right way. It's BS here, just like it always is.

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