The Greatness of Felix Trinidad

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It was an achievement but Hopkins beat Tito by outboxing his ass. Hopkins is not a great classic boxer but embarrassed Tito that day. What did he do after that fight??? He KO Joppy showing that him making 160 was no problem but than becomes a problem after he fights Hopkins EXCUSES

what did he do after the hopkins' fight? nothing.

he fought joppy before bernard.

he fought cherifi after bernard and retired.

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what did he do after the hopkins' fight? nothing.

he fought joppy before bernard.

he fought cherifi after bernard and retired.

When he best Joppy at MIDDLEWEIGHT everyone was saying how good of a MW he is and that his power carried over when moving up. Then he faces Hopkins and is out boxed than everyone makes excuses he was too small actually Tito weighed in more. Hopkins reach was only 2 ½ more than Tito.

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Ring Magazine's Top 100 Hardest Punchers in History.

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White

Source: Ring Magazine (2003)

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When he best Joppy at MIDDLEWEIGHT everyone was saying how good of a MW he is and that his power carried over when moving up. Then he faces Hopkins and is out boxed than everyone makes excuses he was too small actually Tito weighed in more. Hopkins reach was only 2 ½ more than Tito.

just because you beat a middleweight champion doesn't mean you're a natural middleweight.

just because he punched like a middleweight doesn't mean he's a natural middleweight.

pac won a belt at 135 does that mean he's not a natural featherweight which he is?

floyd won a belt at 154 does that mean he's a natural junior middleweight and not a natural lightweight?

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just because you beat a middleweight champion doesn't mean you're a natural middleweight.

just because he punched like a middleweight doesn't mean he's a natural middleweight.

pac won a belt at 135 does that mean he's not a natural featherweight which he is?

floyd won a belt at 154 does that mean he's a natural junior middleweight and not a natural lightweight?

Why did excuses come for him after he got destroyed by Hopkins? It was all praise when he beat Joppy but the **** talking started after Hopkins annihilated him.Trinidad was a 2-to-1 betting favorite.

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Why did excuses come for him after he got destroyed by Hopkins? It was all praise when he beat Joppy but the **** talking started after Hopkins annihilated him.Trinidad was a 2-to-1 betting favorite.

explanations can be called excuses. excuses can be called explanations.

who gives a **** about odds? that's for betting. tito was the popular guy. bernard was nothing but a road bump for most people. the money was gonna be on tito. that's why the odds are like that.

i hope you're just trolling because if you're not trolling and you're serious...... i just don't know.

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explanations can be called excuses. excuses can be called explanations.

who gives a **** about odds? that's for betting. tito was the popular guy. bernard was nothing but a road bump for most people. the money was gonna be on tito. that's why the odds are like that.

i hope you're just trolling because if you're not trolling and you're serious...... i just don't know.

Oscar fans don’t make excuses after he lost to Hopkins about size; it was a close fight until the body shot. Betting doesn’t matter, that is why Ali win over Sonny Liston is legendary and Buster over Tyson. There was a favorite and they lost and was expected to fight. No one talked about size before the fight but it come up after Hopkins win. After Hopkins one good win than losing to Winky and RJJ

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Oscar fans don’t make excuses after he lost to Hopkins about size; it was a close fight until the body shot. Betting doesn’t matter, that is why Ali win over Sonny Liston is legendary and Buster over Tyson. There was a favorite and they lost and was expected to fight. No one talked about size before the fight but it come up after Hopkins win. After Hopkins one good win than losing to Winky and RJJ

wtf?

oscar's loss to bernard isn't even mentioned.

it's because everyone knows oscar is a natural welterweight fighting a natural middleweight.

you get explanations and excuses screwed up.

excuse is why you loss when you shouldn't have. example: "tyson lost to buster because he didn't train properly and he took buster lightly." that's an excuse.

explanation is one of the reasons someone lost. example: "tyson was past prime and old when he lost to mcbride.

if someone says , "tito is a natural welterweight fighting a natural middleweight." that is an explanation of why he lost.

if someone says , "tito didn't train properly and if he did he would've beat bernard." that is an excuse.

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Julian Jackson should at least be near the top 20. If not higher.