Muhammad Ali- Was he the greatest heavyweight?

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  • butterfly1964
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    #91
    Originally posted by TuPrincipe
    Ali is made out to be some sort of God that could never be hit. The fact is that Rocky Marciano was one of the most vicious punchers ever. He had VICIOUS body punches, and he would of worked the body and TKO'D Ali once Ali dropped his gloves. Ali always had trouble with the swarming, slugger types, and Rocky was the best at swarming his opponent.

    Ali had trouble with Frazier, but Rocky had a better chin, and a bigger punch.
    ok, now what does never being hit have to do with being vicious. marciano was the slowest hw i've ever seen, and that is pretty sad, seeing as how he was probably the smallest lol!

    a prime ali could not be hit by one good shot from marciano, so ali dances around him and stops hit on cuts in the mid rounds, or kos him very late. i kind of don't see this fight going the distance.

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    • RockyMarcianofan00
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      #92
      i know ali was fast but he could be stopped he's not untouchable

      Marciano was smarter then you'd think in the ring
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      Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:06 AM.

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      • Heckler
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        #93
        Um i dont think he had a better chin or a better punch. Ali wasn't at his prime when he fought any swarmer, Marciano didn't swarm like frazier, he moved slower with his agressive crouching style... Marciano didn't hit harder then frazier, nor Liston, nor Foreman and your REALLY naieve if you thought otherwise. THE COMPUTER FIGHT MEANS NOTHING... ALI WASN'T TRAINED, WASN'T CONDITIONED... Foreman pounded Ali's body harder then Marciano would EVER be able to for 8 rounds and he never dropped. BUT my main point is Marciano didn't swarm as quickly as frazier, moved slower then frazier and against Muhammad ali in his prime would not be able to cut Ali off regulary enough to inflict enough damage... it would be a repeat of a Frazier vs Ali fight with Ali being able to fight and Marciano being slower.

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        • Heckler
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          #94
          Its possible he equalled strength with Frazier, but frazier threw them in greater numbers.

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          • RockyMarcianofan00
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            #95
            Originally posted by Heckler
            Um i dont think he had a better chin or a better punch. Ali wasn't at his prime when he fought any swarmer, Marciano didn't swarm like frazier, he moved slower with his agressive crouching style... Marciano didn't hit harder then frazier, nor Liston, nor Foreman and your REALLY naieve if you thought otherwise. THE COMPUTER FIGHT MEANS NOTHING... ALI WASN'T TRAINED, WASN'T CONDITIONED... Foreman pounded Ali's body harder then Marciano would EVER be able to for 8 rounds and he never dropped. BUT my main point is Marciano didn't swarm as quickly as frazier, moved slower then frazier and against Muhammad ali in his prime would not be able to cut Ali off regulary enough to inflict enough damage... it would be a repeat of a Frazier vs Ali fight with Ali being able to fight and Marciano being slower.
            Like i just said marciano was the hardest hitter basically unarguabley, the only person that even came close enough for u to think was harder was foreman and Marciano had far more stamina then Foreman if you don't believe that then ur the naieve one
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            Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:07 AM.

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            • Heckler
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              #96
              www.********boxing/news.php?p=26&more=1

              Trying this Link again... im sure its modified when i post it.

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              • RockyMarcianofan00
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                #97
                Originally posted by Heckler
                Its possible he equalled strength with Frazier, but frazier threw them in greater numbers.
                pls just look at the statistics there all there Marciano harder then everyone and the even came close was foreman
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                Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:07 AM.

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                • RockyMarcianofan00
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Heckler
                  www.********boxing/news.php?p=26&more=1

                  Trying this Link again... im sure its modified when i post it.
                  no sry nothing
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                  Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:07 AM.

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                  • Heckler
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                    #99
                    Right where those stars are TYPE IN ******** .... for some reason the moderators won't let you link to the rival site.

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                    • RockyMarcianofan00
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                      #100
                      go figure, thats wierd but what can u do
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                      Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:07 AM.

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