Which wins deserves more credit?

[Left Hook Tua]

oscar is a good example, tito is not. Tito was a middleweight champion when he fought bernard, he is currently a light heavyweight and fit very well at middleweight. If not for hopkins he would have cleaned out the division and beat eveyone.

tito had 1 fight at middleweight before he fought hopkins.

it is true that he was probably good enough to clean out 160 if bernard wasn't there though. 160 was pretty bad.

but there's a reason they matched up holmes-hopkins first and joppy with tito. joppy while a natural middleweight was a small middleweight.

[ИATAS]

and tito knocked joppy out in 5 rounds where as hopkins went the distance with joppy. what's that say

[T-97]

i understand that. just like manny isn't a featherweight anymore.

but it's the fact that they were at their best at that weight.

True,

Tito wasn't the greatest Middleweight. But I still feel he is a good win for Hopkins as Tito had proven he was at least a competative middleweight by beating Joppy,

Say that Joel Casamayor beats Pacquiao, How would you rate that win for Casa? (Or any other Top Lightweight)

[Ryn0]

oscar is a good example, tito is not. Tito was a middleweight champion when he fought bernard, he is currently a light heavyweight and fit very well at middleweight. If not for hopkins he would have cleaned out the division and beat eveyone.

Tito may have been a middleweight at the time but that doesn't take away from the fact that Tito wasn't as good a middleweight as he was a Welterweight. Just because he KO'd Joppy and Hopkins couldn't just shows Tito had more power. It isn't as if Joppy is a defensive master. Tito is a good win not a great one.

[T-97]

Tito may have been a middleweight at the time but that doesn't take away from the fact that Tito wasn't as good a middleweight as he was a Welterweight. Just because he KO'd Joppy and Hopkins couldn't just shows Tito had more power. It isn't as if Joppy is a defensive master. Tito is a good win not a great one.

When he fought Hopkins (2001) He had not been at Welterweight for 2 years. He was his best at Welter, But at that time he had grown into a Junior Middleweight.

[Left Hook Tua]

and tito knocked joppy out in 5 rounds where as hopkins went the distance with joppy. what's that say

styles makes fights?

[T-97]

Say that Joel Casamayor beats Pacquiao, How would you rate that win for Casa? (Or any other Top Lightweight)

Don't duck me Tua

styles makes fights?

Nope,

Tito punched like a mother****er! That's what! hehe

[Left Hook Tua]

True,

Tito wasn't the greatest Middleweight. But I still feel he is a good win for Hopkins as Tito had proven he was at least a competative middleweight by beating Joppy,

Say that Joel Casamayor beats Pacquiao, How would you rate that win for Casa? (Or any other Top Lightweight)

very good win. manny might be a natural feather but he was clearly the best superfeather one division down.

casa win over manny would be exactly the same as the hop win over tito.

2 older , naturally bigger fighters beating naturally smaller but powerful punchers who dominated the divisions below them.

[Left Hook Tua]

Don't duck me Tua



Nope,

Tito punched like a mother****er! That's what! hehe

i'm not ducking you. i responded already.

viva tito trinidad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[T-97]

very good win. manny might be a natural feather but he was clearly the best superfeather one division down.

casa win over manny would be exactly the same as the hop win over tito.

2 older , naturally bigger fighters beating naturally smaller but powerful punchers who dominated the divisions below them.

Thought so,

Now stop hating B Hop