Is Joe Calzaghe an ATG great fighter???

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  • Flawless
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    #111
    Originally posted by fightnews55
    Looks like all the Calzaghe butt hole suckers are using their secret accounts to even up the poll!
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      #112
      Originally posted by abadger
      Hopkins = green
      Toney = weight drained
      Ruiz = bum
      Johnson = KO
      Tarver = Robbery, KO, and ass whooping

      Jones = loss
      De La Hoya = dwarf
      Trinidad = dwarf
      Taylor = loss, loss
      Tarver = Mson Dixon
      Winky = fat
      Calzaghe = loss

      Jones = loss
      Nunn = overrated
      Griffin = los, loss
      Thadzi = loss
      Barkley = shot
      Jirov = bum
      You = G@Y 4 Slap***gy!

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        #113
        Originally posted by BatTheMan
        Take Joe Louis. He made 25 (or about that) titledefenses; was HW champ for 11 years. But the problem here is that he never defeated an ATG. In fact he had ONE shot at an ATG (Marciano) and he blew it.

        Speaking of Marciano. Was he an ATG? If Louis wasn't an ATG then Marciano wasn't either since he didn't beat any other ATG's.

        With a definition like the one you just mentioned such cases could be made for several fighters normally considered ATG's.

        I guess then, that it comes down to having 'boxing ability beyond imaginable'. With that being the case, then I can very well see Joe Calzaghe fit that ability. Noone, and I mean noone, in history has a style and ability comparable to Joe Calzaghe. Hence Joe's an ATG.
        Excellent post!!!!

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          #114
          Originally posted by Flawless
          Why not Hatton, undefeated at JR and one win at WW and lost to MAYWEATHER??? Ne honest let’s say he never took the Mayweather was still undefeated at the JR WW would that change your mind??? I think it would
          Nope, not at all. He defended the WBU title, the WBU!? How ****, before fighting an old Tszyu. Don't gte me wrong that win was a very good win, but he hasn't done a lot else for me to feel he his ATG worthy. He moved up to 147 to beat Collazo, a fight many feel he lost, and then beat Urango, Maussa and a shot Castillo before being beaten by Mayweather,

          I like Hatton. But, he is no way ATG worthy. If you feel Hatton is ATG worthy for being unbeaten at JR WW, surely you should feel Calzaghe is ATG as he is unbeaten at Super Middleweight?

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            #115
            Originally posted by Tunney
            I just looked over there, to see if you're telling the truth - but there are no such links at that site! You're making that up. It's not a supremacist site, it explains on the first page that it was created to counter the belief that white people are athletically inferior. It's actually against racism.
            Originally posted by Flawless
            http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...mID=0&ID=22655


            Go to Google and search caste football and click on more results from castefootball.us then one more time click on similar pages.







            Enjoy Tunney becuase you just have embarrassed yourself
            Guys, take this **** to the ****ing Dome! This is irrelevant to the thread. The only arguing in this thread should be about whether or not JC is an All Time Great.!!!!! This is a good topic and I know you both have some good opinions to share that regard the topic.

            You guys have multiple threads going already where you can hash out the white supremacy he said she said bull ****.

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            • fightnews55
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              #116
              Originally posted by Flawless
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              It's pretty obvious when Calzaghe is losing a poll 4 to 1 and all the sudden it evens up in 5 minutes! ****'n male groupies need to get off Calzaghe's **** and tell his ***** to come here!

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                #117
                Originally posted by T-97
                Nope, not at all. He defended the WBU title, the WBU!? How ****, before fighting an old Tszyu. Don't gte me wrong that win was a very good win, but he hasn't done a lot else for me to feel he his ATG worthy. He moved up to 147 to beat Collazo, a fight many feel he lost, and then beat Urango, Maussa and a shot Castillo before being beaten by Mayweather,

                I like Hatton. But, he is no way ATG worthy. If you feel Hatton is ATG worthy for being unbeaten at JR WW, surely you should feel Calzaghe is ATG as he is unbeaten at Super Middleweight?
                That is the point if Hatton won a few more fights at Jr WW would he be considered a ATG, Kostya is better than anyone in Calzaghe resume.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by BatTheMan
                  Take Joe Louis. He made 25 (or about that) titledefenses; was HW champ for 11 years. But the problem here is that he never defeated an ATG. In fact he had ONE shot at an ATG (Marciano) and he blew it.

                  Speaking of Marciano. Was he an ATG? If Louis wasn't an ATG then Marciano wasn't either since he didn't beat any other ATG's.

                  With a definition like the one you just mentioned such cases could be made for several fighters normally considered ATG's.

                  I guess then, that it comes down to having 'boxing ability beyond imaginable'. With that being the case, then I can very well see Joe Calzaghe fit that ability. Noone, and I mean noone, in history has a style and ability comparable to Joe Calzaghe. Hence Joe's an ATG.

                  Flawless. Please comment the above post ^^^^

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    That is the point if Hatton won a few more fights at Jr WW would he be considered a ATG, Kostya is better than anyone in Calzaghe resume.
                    I already said that Calzaghe isn't an "ATG" but is a great Super Middleweight. You arn't gunna tell me there are more great Super Middleweights than there are Junior Welters?

                    Hatton won't go down as a top ten 140 lber IMO, Where Calzaghe will be one of the top 3 all time 168 lbers at least.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by fightnews55
                      It's pretty obvious when Calzaghe is losing a poll 4 to 1 and all the sudden it evens up in 5 minutes! ****'n male groupies need to get off Calzaghe's **** and tell his ***** to come here!
                      I'm not even a fan of Calzaghe and I vote yes... So **** off! I think that he is an ATG super middle weight. Check my posts. Every time Calzaghe has fought recently I have routed for his opponents. Kessler, Hopkins and now Jones. I may not like him all that much but I can recognize a great fighter when I see one.

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