Is Joe Calzaghe an ATG great fighter???

[Flawless]

So you agree Cotto and Margarito as of right now don't even belong in a HOF conversation?

You could Argue they do

[abadger]

Mosley = Eubank Both past their primes
Lacy = Torres unproven fighters at the time
Kessler = Judah Both highly talented fighters who have not beaten great opposition yet

Hopkins = green
Toney = weight drained
Ruiz = bum
Johnson = KO
Tarver = Robbery, KO, and ass whooping

Jones = loss
De La Hoya = dwarf
Trinidad = dwarf
Taylor = loss, loss
Tarver = Mson Dixon
Winky = fat
Calzaghe = loss

Jones = loss
Nunn = overrated
Griffin = los, loss
Thadzi = loss
Barkley = shot
Jirov = bum

[BattlingNelson]

ATG is a fighter who defines the odds who beats other “great” fighters when it mattered, or their boxing ability is beyond imaginable.

Take Joe Louis. He made 25 (or about that) titledefenses; was HW champ for 11 years. But the problem here is that he never defeated an ATG. In fact he had ONE shot at an ATG (Marciano) and he blew it.

Speaking of Marciano. Was he an ATG? If Louis wasn't an ATG then Marciano wasn't either since he didn't beat any other ATG's.

With a definition like the one you just mentioned such cases could be made for several fighters normally considered ATG's.

I guess then, that it comes down to having 'boxing ability beyond imaginable'. With that being the case, then I can very well see Joe Calzaghe fit that ability. Noone, and I mean noone, in history has a style and ability comparable to Joe Calzaghe. Hence Joe's an ATG.

[TheGreatAli]

Flawless is as addicted to Calzaghe as you and I abadger


This is for you Flawless

[The Hammer]

Tell not us but me how did you find that site that has numerous links to Neo **** sites and other racist supremacist white sites???

I just looked over there, to see if you're telling the truth - but there are no such links at that site! You're making that up. It's not a supremacist site, it explains on the first page that it was created to counter the belief that white people are athletically inferior. It's actually against racism.

[Flawless]

Hopkins = green
Toney = weight drained
Ruiz = bum
Johnson = KO
Tarver = Robbery, KO, and ass whooping

Jones = loss
De La Hoya = dwarf
Trinidad = dwarf
Taylor = loss, loss
Tarver = Mson Dixon
Winky = fat
Calzaghe = loss

Jones = loss
Nunn = overrated
Griffin = los, loss
Thadzi = loss
Barkley = shot
Jirov = bum

You think talking Hopkins going to change this, Cotto resume is underrated

[Flawless]

I just looked over there, to see if you're telling the truth - but there are no such links at that site! You're making that up. It's not a supremacist site, it explains on the first page that it was created to counter the belief that white people are athletically inferior. It's actually against racism.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=related:www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=14&teamID=0&ID=22655

Go to Google and search caste football and click on more results from castefootball.us then one more time click on similar pages.

https://www.storm.front.org/forum/showthread.php/caste-football-447314.html

Enjoy Tunney becuase you just have embarrassed yourself

[Flawless]

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...mID=0&ID=22655


Go to Google and search caste football and click on more results from castefootball.us then one more time click on similar pages.

https://www.storm.front.org/forum/showthread.php/caste-football-447314.html

Enjoy Tunney becuase you just have embarrassed yourself

With the link remove the. between storm and front

[fightnews55]

Looks like all the Calzaghe butt hole suckers are using their secret accounts to even up the poll!

[Flawless]

Take Joe Louis. He made 25 (or about that) titledefenses; was HW champ for 11 years. But the problem here is that he never defeated an ATG. In fact he had ONE shot at an ATG (Marciano) and he blew it.

Speaking of Marciano. Was he an ATG? If Louis wasn't an ATG then Marciano wasn't either since he didn't beat any other ATG's.

With a definition like the one you just mentioned such cases could be made for several fighters normally considered ATG's.

I guess then, that it comes down to having 'boxing ability beyond imaginable'. With that being the case, then I can very well see Joe Calzaghe fit that ability. Noone, and I mean noone, in history has a style and ability comparable to Joe Calzaghe. Hence Joe's an ATG.

Speed= Tonnes of fighter better
Chin= same again
Power =
Defence=
Ring intelligence: show a bit against Hopkins