Nonito Donaire vs Cristian Mijares

[flipside]

hmmm i just saw u voted for donaire by ko
for a writer and so called boxing expert u could use some objectivity
i mean ur clearly biased cuz this kid is pinoy, or maybe u hate on mexicans i saw a thread u made on how margarito had no chance and what not really biased stuff
seriously ive seen more objectivity on smart posters like silencers kayjay dweins
mijares is a p4p fighter on almost every list wake up

you didnt answer the point about the unfinished business.

[Mr. Ryan]

you didnt answer the point about the unfinished business.

Give him a break, that's a hard one to back up.

[ElGranLuchador]

How do you have unfinished business with someone you KO'ed in the first half of a fight that wasn't close?

I'm not saying Donaire can walk through Mijares like he did Darchinyan because those are two very different styles but I think Donaire should be in a fight like that. He's a difficult fight for anyone because of his speed and his power, which is unrivaled in those lower weights.

No one else is scoring one punch knockouts like Darchinyan. I think he's the lightest fighter ever to get Ring Magazine's KO of the year. He brings a lot of star power to those lower weights.

Also the alphabet champion who preceded Donaire was the highest regarded in the division at the time of the KO and still undefeated. Semantics can downplay any fighter.

vic was the champ dude
it doesnt matter if nonito was dominant it only takes one punch from darchinyan to end the fight
its the right thing to do plus it makes a lot of sense vic has just come from 2 big wins ( in one he was robbed)
makes more sense than fighting some unknown guy from south africa

and donaire aint that special ive seen him fight he wouldnt be able to match the superior skills of mijares

[shadeyfizzle]

dude ur clearly ignorant
this statement alone says it
the arce hype before that fight was all over the place
mijares was an underdog

You're the ignorant 1 if you think "Hype" or being the underdog has any bearing on the outcome of a fight. Vegas was clearly capitalizing on Arce's fame and fan friendly style. But anyone who had followed both men's careers knew that Arce was past prime and that Mijares was a dangerous title defense because of his technical superiority over Arce.

With that said Mijares is the rightful and most highly regarded champ in his division but to think that Donaire just doesnt have the tools to give Mijares fits is far from being objective. It would be a hell of a fight and I think it would come right down to the wire.

[Mr. Ryan]

vic was the champ dude
it doesnt matter if nonito was dominant it only takes one punch from darchinyan to end the fight
its the right thing to do plus it makes a lot of sense vic has just come from 2 big wins ( in one he was robbed)
makes more sense than fighting some unknown guy from south africa

and donaire aint that special ive seen him fight he wouldnt be able to match the superior skills of mijares

It only takes one punch from anyone to beat someone at the championship level. Robbie Peden was behind miserably before Campbell gave him a free shot and altered his career path. You could say that Mijares should rematch Maldonado, it would only take one punch to end the fight, by your logic not mine.

Darchinyan isn't in the Nonito Donaire business now that Donaire is with Top Rank opposed to Gary Shaw. Since that fight can't happen and as you put it, a fight with Moruti Mthalane his mandatory doesn't make sense, fighting Cristian Mijares would be a much more productive matchup. Since both are under the same promotional banner, this fight could be coming sooner rather than later.

You have a differing opinion than mine on the fight yet I don't try to discredit it as bias. Why? Because I find meaningful debate much more productive than finger-pointing and labeling.

[ElGranLuchador]

You're the ignorant 1 if you think "Hype" or being the underdog has any bearing on the outcome of a fight. Vegas was clearly capitalizing on Arce's fame and fan friendly style. But anyone who had followed both men's careers knew that Arce was past prime and that Mijares was a dangerous title defense because of his technical superiority over Arce.

With that said Mijares is the rightful and most highly regarded champ in his division but to think that Donaire just doesnt have the tools to give Mijares fits is far from being objective. It would be a hell of a fight and I think it would come right down to the wire.

dude arce was not past his prime
he was peaking he was knocking out everyone and was hyped to become one of the few 3 division mexican champions
hell at that time he had the longest undefeated streak in boxing
u are ignorant i dont why i even bother

[Mr. Ryan]

vic was the champ dude

Vic was just an alphabet champion, you said it yourself.

[Mr. Ryan]

dude arce was not past his prime
he was peaking he was knocking out everyone and was hyped to become one of the few 3 division mexican champions
hell at that time he had the longest undefeated streak in boxing
u are ignorant i dont why i even bother

You know as well as I do that statistics like unbeaten streaks mean nothing. Tye Fields had a very good unbeaten streak going for a long time. Then Monte Barrett happened.

Arce was only a one-division champion at 108 pounds. He held an interim title at 112, Pongsaklek Wongjongkam was the full WBC titlist. Arce never pressed for a fight with Wongjongkam before moving to 115.

[ElGranLuchador]

It only takes one punch from anyone to beat someone at the championship level. Robbie Peden was behind miserably before Campbell gave him a free shot and altered his career path. You could say that Mijares should rematch Maldonado, it would only take one punch to end the fight, by your logic not mine.

Darchinyan isn't in the Nonito Donaire business now that Donaire is with Top Rank opposed to Gary Shaw. Since that fight can't happen and as you put it, a fight with Moruti Mthalane his mandatory doesn't make sense, fighting Cristian Mijares would be a much more productive matchup. Since both are under the same promotional banner, this fight could be coming sooner rather than later.

You have a differing opinion than mine on the fight yet I don't try to discredit it as bias. Why? Because I find meaningful debate much more productive than finger-pointing and labeling.

hmm just saying my thoughts
anyway ur clearly not familiar with maldonado he is not a big puncher he was a protected prospect that got exposed by vic and recently got humilliated by montiel so he is out of the picture for a long time
either way a vic vs donaire fight makes a lot of sense im not the only one that thinks that

k how u really feel donaire can beat mijares?
i dont see it just for the fact that mijares has a great chin and has been in there with bigger punchers than donaire and more skilled opponents like muņoz and kawashima
there is absolutely no way donaire kos mijares just like there was no way cotto could ko margarito
so donaire would have to ud mijares the p4p #9 most skilled fighter in the world and with his lack of experience i dont see it happening at all

[shadeyfizzle]

hmm just saying my thoughts
anyway ur clearly not familiar with maldonado he is not a big puncher he was a protected prospect that got exposed by vic and recently got humilliated by montiel so he is out of the picture for a long time
either way a vic vs donaire fight makes a lot of sense im not the only one that thinks that

k how u really feel donaire can beat mijares?
i dont see it just for the fact that mijares has a great chin and has been in there with bigger punchers than donaire and more skilled opponents like muņoz and kawashima
there is absolutely no way donaire kos mijares just like there was no way cotto could ko margarito
so donaire would have to ud mijares the p4p #9 most skilled fighter in the world and with his lack of experience i dont see it happening at all

So you're saying kawashima > donaire????