Margarito is overrated, and the WW is Mediocre.

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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pico Hollywood
    The LW division as a whole has a lot more marketable fighters than the WW division like i stated before in the posts above.

    Pacquiao and JMM sell more tickets as LW than Tony as a WW..

    and I bet you Casamayar-JMM makes more ppv buys than Margarito next fight, if he fights on ppv.
    Your last sentence is pure speculation and probably wrong. Either way, it's not fact.

    Furthermore, Miguel Cotto is a far more marketable and popular fighter than Juan Manuel Marquez.

    I repeat, other than Pacquaio...WHO? Didn't think so...

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    • Pico Hollywood
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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Your last sentence is pure speculation and probably wrong. Either way, it's not fact.

      Furthermore, Miguel Cotto is a far more marketable and popular fighter than Juan Manuel Marquez.

      I repeat, other than Pacquaio...WHO? Didn't think so...
      thats why on the last sentence I said I bet, did i ever say it was fact, anyway who would Margarito next fight be, probably Clottey, if that went to ppv who do you think would have more buys that fight or JMM vs Casa?

      and you can't switch fighters you asked me who would sell more tickets than margarito at LW than him at ww, your argument is inconsistant.

      The LW Division is stronger than the WW division right now.

      Pacquiao, Diaz, Campbell, JMM, Casamayor, Guzman are all marketable fighters
      with good promoting done.

      and you have the contenders like Amir Khan, Anthony Peterson that will be big draws in future fights.


      Outside of Cotto and Margarito name a marketable fighter at WW?

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        #33
        Originally posted by 2501 v2.0
        lightweight division is the best.
        It might be. But that's debatable. No way is the welterweight division overrated though. It's one of the best divisions in boxing if not the best.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Pico Hollywood
          Circle Jerk?!?!
          Huh? Maybe I missed something.....

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            #35
            thats why on the last sentence I said I bet, did i ever say it was fact, anyway who would Margarito next fight be, probably Clottey, if that went to ppv who do you think would have more buys that fight or JMM vs Casa?
            Ok, so then its irrelevant. lets deal with facts.



            and you can't switch fighters you asked me who would sell more tickets than margarito at LW than him at ww, your argument is inconsistant.
            Marketable fighters at WW and LW was the argument. Get real.

            The LW Division is stronger than the WW division right now.
            No ****. Marketable, not stronger.

            Pacquiao, Diaz, Campbell, JMM, Casamayor, Guzman are all marketable fighters
            with good promoting done.
            "With good promoting." More speculation I see.

            and you have the contenders like Amir Khan, Anthony Peterson that will be big draws in future fights.
            Even more speculation!
            Outside of Cotto and Margarito name a marketable fighter at WW?
            Shane Mosley? Zab Judah?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Migs
              The lightweight division is the best right now but I wouldn't call the WW division a joke, just extremely inconsistent. I think fans want to see a consistent champion in the division, if not than I speak for myself. Belts change hands to quickly at Welterweight.
              A consistent champion like Wlad that beats the hell out of everyone and then people start complaining how the whole division is weak and the worst in boxing?

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                #37
                Originally posted by FROSTY FREEZE
                The WW Division is mediocre at best, Alot of fighters in the division was overrated as well, Cotto 1st big fight he lost, Clottey quickly gets injured, Williams is a cry baby, Floyd dissappeared when he was needed most, Quintana got one lucky win and couldn't even execute a good enough game plan in the rematch. Don't even make me mention judah.

                Margarito is the best of the overrated fighters, it upsets me this division is so flawed and close to death.. once Margarito loses to clottey the division will be rotting.
                the welter division is what it is because there is soo much tough comp. how the hell is it mediocre when we haven't had as many stars in the division for a long as time and we are having some great fights?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  the welter division is what it is because there is soo much tough comp. how the hell is it mediocre when we haven't had as many stars in the division for a long as time and we are having some great fights?
                  It's the toughest division in boxing bar none. The majority residing in the Top Ten will easily beat B opponents and demolish C+ and under fighters right now. If there was only one dominant fighter like in the heavyweights then the consensus will be that the entire division is crap and no one poses a challenge.

                  It seems a lot of the recent complaints happened because of Margarito upsetting Cotto and turning the division on its head by being the best at 147. Now that Tony is the king the illogical conclusion is that Welterweight is crap because of someone like him is considered the best.

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                  • Pico Hollywood
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Ok, so then its irrelevant. lets deal with facts.





                    Marketable fighters at WW and LW was the argument. Get real.



                    No ****. Marketable, not stronger.



                    "With good promoting." More speculation I see.


                    Even more speculation!


                    Shane Mosley? Zab Judah?
                    All of what your claiming is Speculation as well since we don't have the ppv numbers to the Cotto-Margarito fight.

                    Since you want facts look up Pac-Diaz ppv buys and tickets sold and compare it to Margarito's fight before Cotto which was kermit cintron.

                    Then get the tickets to cotto-gomez and compare that to Diaz-Campbell fight.

                    We won't count Guzman-soto #'s since he fought a SFW
                    or JMM-Pac's #'s since it was also at SFW

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                      #40
                      All of what your claiming is Speculation as well since we don't have the ppv numbers to the Cotto-Margarito fight.
                      Seeing as how reps from both HBO and ESPN have said near 500k, I'm not sure what more confirmation you need.

                      Since you want facts look up Pac-Diaz ppv buys and tickets sold and compare it to Margarito's fight before Cotto which was kermit cintron.
                      I already know. Furthermore, what's your point? Pac is a big star, we've established this. That doesn't mean LW has more marketable fighters.

                      Then get the tickets to cotto-gomez and compare that to Diaz-Campbell fight.
                      LMAO at you. Diaz-Campbell? Cotto is more popular than both COMBINED.

                      You're wrong but you won't give up.

                      Margarito
                      Cotto
                      Mosley
                      Judah

                      All have had big pay-per-views. You have Pac and, to a far lesser extent, Marquez. Now go play.
                      Last edited by IMDAZED; 08-19-2008, 02:32 PM.

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