Jones will lose like Hopkins

[Clegg]

the reason i say it will be like the Hopkins fight is because i believe if Jones does get stopped it will be due to fatigue and tiredness rather than being hurt everyone knows its easier to hurt a fighter when he is tired and the fighter himself is much more likely to jack it on or have a reason to quit when he is hurt & tired

on the other hand if he goes the distance in my opinion he will have surrendered to may rounds due to inactivity because he cant engauge for 12 due to fatigue due his age

either way his chances of winning are minimal based on the fact he cant sustain action for 10 rounds let alone 12 that is my argument fatigue will be the reason he loses even if he slows down and gets hurt it will most likely be because he is languishing on the ropes because he aint got the stamina to keep moving to stay of them

Uh huh. Well that's very nice, but it's not really a revolutionary position to take, is it? I mean it's not like predicting that Douglas will KO Tyson or anything like that, so I just didn't figure it was worth bumping.

the guy is 40 years old and that is why Calzaghe is facing him he knows he can beat a shot 40 year old so no matter how good Jones starts he will fade just like Hopkins its a sure fire way for your hero to pad his record some more and avoid good fighters like Pavlik

why break the habbits of a life time i guess

Sorry to break it to you but Calzaghe isn't my hero. I've previously started a thread about how bad he was against Hopkins, and I've criticised him several times for not fighting Pavlik.

I realise that for people like yourself, this is hard to take. I mean, the discussion was about how good your prediction was, but you're trying to change the subject to his motives for his choice of opposition, say he padded his record etc.

By the way, Jones is 39, not 40. It doesn't really matter, but the amount you go on about it, you'd think that you would've checked. Unless of course you need to bend the truth and exaggerate in order to strengthen your argument?

The fact that you need to repeat this stuff ad nauseam suggests that you have more of desire to needlessly criticise than I do to needlessly praise. That's why you've set up alts about fighters that you dislike, but I haven't.

[MANGLER]

Unlikely Jones gets a KO unless it happens on a surprise counter. Expect Joe to have more energy late than Roy, but if RJ can put enough points in the bank early and I think he will, he'll get the decision.

[Stickman]

Unlikely Jones gets a KO unless it happens on a surprise counter. Expect Joe to have more energy late than Roy, but if RJ can put enough points in the bank early and I think he will, he'll get the decision.

Roy will have 4, maybe 5 good rounds in this fight, all of them early, though I think he may rally a little in the 12th if he gets a chance to lay back a little in the 10th or 11th. Don't think he'll take the 12th, but he'll look better than he did in the few previous rounds.

Calzaghe just has too much energy for Jones to compete well. If he lays back and tries to potshot, he'll lose rounds. If he steps up and tries to throw at Joe's pace he won't end the fight on his feet. Basically this is a no-win fight for Roy unless he gets a VERY lucky shot in late (Calzaghe just doesn't fade in the stretch and has an iron chin), or jumps him early and prays he can starch Calzaghe before he runs out of gas...again, Joe's iron chin makes this risky too.

I think Jones has a chance to win this fight, but all the stars will have to be aligned perfectly for it to happen his way. It's happened before, so I wouldn't rule it out this time either, but I also wouldn't bother putting $20 on long odds just for the hell of it...I'd rather buy a bottle of Bushmills with that money than tossing it into the ****ter that way. If I had to make odds on Jones ending the fight by a KO win, I'd say it's better than a 50 to 1 shot.

[Truth]

Calzaghe is nearing the age of 40 aswell. you would think by this thread he was 27 if you didn't know better.

[BadNewz]

If Calzaghe wins, it just proves Roy is shot. Even a slightly-post-prime Roy would rip Calzaghe apart at any stage of his career.

[mspiegelo]

Jones will lose like Hopkins mark my words thats if he makes it to the 12 th round either way he loses either he gets stopped by Calzaghe overwhelming him or he will look good early like Hopkins and fade down the stretch he has virtually one chance of winnning this fight and that is to score a knockout and for that to happen Calzaghe will have had to declined dramatically and i cant see this materialising at all

i will be pulling this thread out of the archives after this fight and u will see this is exactly what happened in that fight

you mean he will win the fight, but lose an unfortunate split decision because the judges prefer slaps to real punches thrown by a professional boxer.... that sucks but thanks for sharing ms cleo!

[Da Hammer]

Yes, beating P4P top 5 Bernard Hopkins, who was coming off of 2 wins against P4P top 10 guys and was the highest rated potential opponent for Calzaghe to face is a very good achievement.

Beating Roy Jones...not so much.

Fine i agree about Hopkins i guess i discriminate too much against him because of his age lol. and beating Jones yea brings nothing except a name that people will remember but also people will remember the fact that Jones was shot and a prime Jones easily whoops on Calzaghe. Too much speed and power for Calzaghe to handle!

[Stickman]

If Calzaghe wins, it just proves Roy is shot. Even a slightly-post-prime Roy would rip Calzaghe apart at any stage of his career.

Sure he would. Hey, weren't they saying that **** right before the Lacy fight? "Joe's never been in the ring against someone young and in their prime with skills and power like Lacy, he's going to be torn apart".

Look, I'm not saying Jones wouldn't have beaten Calzaghe in his prime, or that he would've...all I'm saying is that US boxing fans have been saying Calzaghe will get "exposed" for years, yet they've always been wrong. And not just wrong, embarassingly wrong. Lacy was beaten down like a rank amature and humiliated, and he was Americas TOP SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT. Even Manfredo looked like a 10 year old girl in the ring with Calzaghe, and I can't remember ANYONE who made Pete look that ******. Granted, the ref was an idiot, but Pete was well on his way to being a Lacy clone and it probably didn't matter a tinker's damn. And Kessler....well, the entire WORLD thought Kessler was going to give Calzaghe a boxing lesson. After all, he's one of the most highly skilled technical boxers in the world, and I'd put him not too far behind JMM, skill-wise. And he turned into a punching bag after 4 rounds.

You guys that can't stand Calzaghe....you have the right to like, or dislike, any fighter you want, but when you start with the "he wouldn't have lasted 2 rounds against [insert old, dead or retired fighter's name here] in his prime" you start sounding like petulant kids with a sore ass about losing a game. Grow the **** up and accept the fact that, while Calzaghe may not be your idea of the perfect champ, he simply can't be beaten right now, or in the forseeable future. In fact, there's not even anyone I can think of who'd make a decent showing, except for maybe a Kessler rematch (that kid is smart and I'm sure he's been working on an answer for Calzaghe since their fight).

And yeah, we all know Pavlik is the great answer to Calzaghe....well, bull****. Pavlik has a truckload of heart and guts, but he's about as highly skilled as a boxer as my 17 year old daughter. He's tough, but he doesn't have the speed or skill to be Calzaghe's downfall. And by the time he might stand a chance of beating Calzaghe (2 or 4 years), Joe will be too ****ing old. And I'm a big Pavlik fan. I also happen to be a realist. Hell, I admit that I'd like to see Pavlik/Calzaghe myself, but that's because I know it would be a great fight to watch, at least the first half...but I have no illusions about Pavlik winning, I just think the style matchup would be great show. An extremely ****** career move for Pavlik, but a great fight.

About the only way Calzaghe is going to get beaten is if he gets into the ring with someone who's just too damned big for him....if he went to cruiser he'd probably get starched by someone like Haye (if they could land flush), but even that I'm not so sure about...I've seen Joe catch some monstrous shots and walk through 'em.

I'm done, you may carry on with your silly childish bull**** now.

[SkillspayBills]

Can't wait to get rich off this one.

[Stickman]

Can't wait to get rich off this one.

Who are you taking?