Cotto and Margarito definately put Boxing on the "Board".

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  • Stickman
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    #11
    I didn't get to see the fight, anywhere I can get it?

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    • 2501 v2.0
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      #12
      Not one fight will put boxing on the map but i will tell you this

      2 Mayweather vs. De La Hoya fights = hurt boxing

      2 Margarito vs. Cotto fights = help boxing

      Let me ask yall this. How many of you all have returned to a club or restaraunt you didn't like or werent satisfied with? You dont right?

      DLH/Mayweather was supposed to be "the fight to save boxing". De La Hoya promised fireworks in the ring and Mayweather promised a "toe to toe" battle and that he was going to "slaughter" Oscar in the ring all through out the press conferences, interviews, and the 24/7 series.

      So 2.5 Million people buy the fight to see this fight that is supposed to be one of the best of all time, a dramatic, action packed fight that the promoters, the fighters hyped up and what happens?

      Oscar gasses out and Floyd plays it safe.


      When a fight becomes all business and is hyped up to the level or the stage that "The World Awaits" was hyped up to, you better damn well give the crowd what they wanted because at this point, its about entertainment. You can say its about the win and you're right, but you better win in a fashion that you promised you would, in the manner of which the people who paid to watch you fight were expecting.

      But it didnt pan out that way and you had 2.5 Million people talking **** about boxing. 2.5 Million people saying, "That was it? THIS is the best Boxing has to offer? Boxing is STILL boring." And there went comes Dana White and the MMA fans rubbing it in the face of the sport with the "I told you so" attitude.

      And the result of that was 1.7 Million people LESS buy Mayweather/Hatton even though Mayweather now was supposed to be the biggest draw in the sport.

      So realize this, its NOT about the amount of PPV's a fight gets, but the QUALITY of the fight that saves the sport. Fights like De La Hoya/Mayweather, Mayweather/Baldomir, Hopkins/Wright are fights that should not be PPV. Why? Because fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins go into a fight HYPING the **** out of it overpromising while already having the game plan of doing as little as possible in a fight to get the W and that kills the sport in the mainstream, especially in a society that wants action. At this point, causal fans are PAYING for entertainment and they DONT get it. Thats why UFC dominates bars now. Thats why Elite XC is on CBS. A fight doesn't have to be Gatti/Ward, but if a fighter wants to be a PPV fighter, then he must be ready to give fans what they want because they are paying for it. If a fighter doesn't care to give what the fans want, then be happy with HBO, ESPN, and Showtime. Don't over hype a fight by acting like a bafoon and promising to do things that will not be done because at that point, they are just scamming the paying fans.

      If you disagree, then stop complaining about our sport dying, stop complaining the mainstream not acknowledging our sport. Because things will not change and you seem content with it.
      Last edited by 2501 v2.0; 08-16-2008, 04:14 PM.

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      • DIOS DOMINICANO
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        #13
        Originally posted by Puas
        And that's exactly why we, The Boxing Community, need MARGARITO vs DE LA HOYA!
        No... we need margarito vs a prime fighter.

        Delahoya was "an old man" when he fought Mayweather. But nearly two years later, he is a prime opponent??

        Margarito-Williams 2 is the fight.

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          #14
          Oscar/Mayweather was not suppose to save boxing, Boxing NEVER needed any saving...Cotto/Margarito helped boxing alot because people were able to see a competitive fight between 2 equal top fighters.

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            #15
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            No... we need margarito vs a prime fighter.

            Delahoya was "an old man" when he fought Mayweather. But nearly two years later, he is a prime opponent??

            Margarito-Williams 2 is the fight.
            wow, you are actually putting Margarito and Floyd on the same level? I could have sworn some were calling him a journey man bum.

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              #16
              Originally posted by raycorey
              Oscar/Mayweather was not suppose to save boxing, Boxing NEVER needed any saving...Cotto/Margarito helped boxing alot because people were able to see a competitive fight between 2 equal top fighters.
              Are you SERIOUSLY saying Mayweather/De La Hoya was NOT billed as the fight to save boxing? Seriously?

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                #17
                Originally posted by 2501 v2.0
                Not one fight will put boxing on the map but i will tell you this

                2 Mayweather vs. De La Hoya fights = hurt boxing

                2 Margarito vs. Cotto fights = help boxing

                Let me ask yall this. How many of you all have returned to a club or restaraunt you didn't like or werent satisfied with? You dont right?

                DLH/Mayweather was supposed to be "the fight to save boxing". De La Hoya promised fireworks in the ring and Mayweather promised a "toe to toe" battle and that he was going to "slaughter" Oscar in the ring all through out the press conferences, interviews, and the 24/7 series.

                So 2.5 Million people buy the fight to see this fight that is supposed to be one of the best of all time, a dramatic, action packed fight that the promoters, the fighters hyped up and what happens?

                Oscar gasses out and Floyd plays it safe.


                When a fight becomes all business and is hyped up to the level or the stage that "The World Awaits" was hyped up to, you better damn well give the crowd what they wanted because at this point, its about entertainment. You can say its about the win and you're right, but you better win in a fashion that you promised you would, in the manner of which the people who paid to watch you fight were expecting.

                But it didnt pan out that way and you had 2.5 Million people talking **** about boxing. 2.5 Million people saying, "That was it? THIS is the best Boxing has to offer? Boxing is STILL boring." And there went comes Dana White and the MMA fans rubbing it in the face of the sport with the "I told you so" attitude.

                And the result of that was 1.7 Million people LESS buy Mayweather/Hatton even though Mayweather now was supposed to be the biggest draw in the sport.

                So realize this, its NOT about the amount of PPV's a fight gets, but the QUALITY of the fight that saves the sport. Fights like De La Hoya/Mayweather, Mayweather/Baldomir, Hopkins/Wright are fights that should not be PPV. Why? Because fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins go into a fight HYPING the **** out of it overpromising while already having the game plan of doing as little as possible in a fight to get the W and that kills the sport in the mainstream, especially in a society that wants action. At this point, causal fans are PAYING for entertainment and they DONT get it. Thats why UFC dominates bars now. Thats why Elite XC is on CBS. A fight doesn't have to be Gatti/Ward, but if a fighter wants to be a PPV fighter, then he must be ready to give fans what they want because they are paying for it. If a fighter doesn't care to give what the fans want, then be happy with HBO, ESPN, and Showtime. Don't over hype a fight by acting like a bafoon and promising to do things that will not be done because at that point, they are just scamming the paying fans.

                If you disagree, then stop complaining about our sport dying, stop complaining the mainstream not acknowledging our sport. Because things will not change and you seem content with it.
                Good Post....I agree with the MMA part man. Though I like boxing more, I buy more MMA events cause they deliver the action I look for. Boxing needs more fights that deliver. Too much picking and choosing with greed, thats another reason more and more people are tuning in to MMA.

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                • Boofdatruth
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 2501 v2.0
                  Not one fight will put boxing on the map but i will tell you this

                  2 Mayweather vs. De La Hoya fights = hurt boxing

                  2 Margarito vs. Cotto fights = help boxing

                  Let me ask yall this. How many of you all have returned to a club or restaraunt you didn't like or werent satisfied with? You dont right?

                  DLH/Mayweather was supposed to be "the fight to save boxing". De La Hoya promised fireworks in the ring and Mayweather promised a "toe to toe" battle and that he was going to "slaughter" Oscar in the ring all through out the press conferences, interviews, and the 24/7 series.

                  So 2.5 Million people buy the fight to see this fight that is supposed to be one of the best of all time, a dramatic, action packed fight that the promoters, the fighters hyped up and what happens?

                  Oscar gasses out and Floyd plays it safe.


                  When a fight becomes all business and is hyped up to the level or the stage that "The World Awaits" was hyped up to, you better damn well give the crowd what they wanted because at this point, its about entertainment. You can say its about the win and you're right, but you better win in a fashion that you promised you would, in the manner of which the people who paid to watch you fight were expecting.

                  But it didnt pan out that way and you had 2.5 Million people talking **** about boxing. 2.5 Million people saying, "That was it? THIS is the best Boxing has to offer? Boxing is STILL boring." And there went comes Dana White and the MMA fans rubbing it in the face of the sport with the "I told you so" attitude.

                  And the result of that was 1.7 Million people LESS buy Mayweather/Hatton even though Mayweather now was supposed to be the biggest draw in the sport.

                  So realize this, its NOT about the amount of PPV's a fight gets, but the QUALITY of the fight that saves the sport. Fights like De La Hoya/Mayweather, Mayweather/Baldomir, Hopkins/Wright are fights that should not be PPV. Why? Because fighters like Mayweather and Hopkins go into a fight HYPING the **** out of it overpromising while already having the game plan of doing as little as possible in a fight to get the W and that kills the sport in the mainstream, especially in a society that wants action. At this point, causal fans are PAYING for entertainment and they DONT get it. Thats why UFC dominates bars now. Thats why Elite XC is on CBS. A fight doesn't have to be Gatti/Ward, but if a fighter wants to be a PPV fighter, then he must be ready to give fans what they want because they are paying for it. If a fighter doesn't care to give what the fans want, then be happy with HBO, ESPN, and Showtime. Don't over hype a fight by acting like a bafoon and promising to do things that will not be done because at that point, they are just scamming the paying fans.

                  If you disagree, then stop complaining about our sport dying, stop complaining the mainstream not acknowledging our sport. Because things will not change and you seem content with it.
                  lol, You trying to blame Hop and Floyd for what you perceive as promises of top flight performances is ass. You always some how add Floyd to anything that is negative. This is why nobody respects you. You try to fit in instead of giving a real opinion. Boxing lacks a super star with ko power. This happens in boxing from time to time. The sport knows about guys like Dlh and Floyd. They came out when the fight was announced. They still don't know Cotto or Margs. Cotto had a chance to elevate boxing, but he lost. Margs is not exciting enough to get anyone to pay for his fights. Fans showed that they will come out regardless of what is perceived as a disappointing performance or potential boring fight. Dlh and Floyd showed that fans still love boxing. The result of their fight will not affect anyone from coming to the next super fight so stop trying to drag Floyd into your muddled opinion that doesn't even make sense.

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                  • LoloChivas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Stickman
                    I didn't get to see the fight, anywhere I can get it?
                    HERES THE LINK TO SEE THIS FIGHT....ENJOY
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boofdatruth
                      lol, You trying to blame Hop and Floyd for what you perceive as promises of top flight performances is ass. You always some how add Floyd to anything that is negative. This is why nobody respects you. You try to fit in instead of giving a real opinion. Boxing lacks a super star with ko power. This happens in boxing from time to time. The sport knows about guys like Dlh and Floyd. They came out when the fight was announced. They still don't know Cotto or Margs. Cotto had a chance to elevate boxing, but he lost. Margs is not exciting enough to get anyone to pay for his fights. Fans showed that they will come out regardless of what is perceived as a disappointing performance or potential boring fight. Dlh and Floyd showed that fans still love boxing. The result of their fight will not affect anyone from coming to the next super fight so stop trying to drag Floyd into your muddled opinion that doesn't even make sense.
                      nothing. you bring absolutely nothing to this board. as a matter of fact, i wish you're 97' HP would be donated to some kid in Africa because I'm 100% confident that they would contribute to the internet more than you would. My laptop has been infected with Trojans that have been more contributive on the net than you have.

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