Looking back at Hatton's preformances after the Tszyu win....

[ufirst]

Still, if you are fighting for a junior welterweight championship, it should be fought at 140 pounds. That's how I look at it.

To me if you fight in the division for a title, thats the division you're in. Mayweather showed that he could be competitive with welterweights and beat them. He was a welterweight.

I've never been convinced that Hatton was a true welterweight.

I agree with you on that (Hatton not a welterweight, truly) but it's Floyd's skill level, not his size that allows him to be competitive against bigger guys as it is with all/most fighters of a certain Class and that's the reason Hatton has a good chance of beating Pac (skill level is pretty close).

[Mr. Ryan]

hatton was fighting at 140 when Floyd was a legitimate 130er making weight quite easily. Hatton has 43 fights at 140+, and Floyd has, er, 8 or so (without checking).

Hatton was 154ish on fight night. Floyd was 148.

Weight is what makes you a certain class, not necessarily your ability to fight bigger guys. That is my opinion.

Ruiz could probably beat Mormeck, but not Roy Jones. Yet, Mormeck is more of a heavyweight than Roy Jones. Nahmean?

I definitely get where you're coming from and points taken.

[Boofdatruth]

True Hatton wasnt the same at 147 , he only fought at welter once against a true welter in Luis , against Floyd it was on paper 147 but in reality it was 140 and Ricky stepped in at his prime weight and in his own words his best fighting weight , the actual scales defines the fight more than numbers stamped on the belt .

To say Floyd is a better welter is misleading in this discussion because Floyd is a better fighter than Hatton at any weight .

That last sentence was a very good thought. It clarifies everything.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Ricky Hatton wasn't the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140, and the record speaks for itself really.

I think something is hidden in the record here. The reality is that Hatton's move to 147 coincided with him fighting BETTER OPPOSITION (younger, faster, fresher) than he had been fighting.

If you look at hatton's history at 140, it is chock full o' senior citizens. he was able to out-physical those guys on the sheer basis of youth, speed, stamina. Even kostya Tszyu. Zoo was 36 and it was still a close fight.

However, hatton looked iffy against Urango (faded late), Collazo (almost KO'd late), and mayweather (Ko'd late). Notice a trend?

There's a big difference in Cool Vince Phillips (40)/ Freddie Pendleton (38) and then you fight Collazo and mayweather.

The difference is age...not size.

[Jim Jeffries]

I agree with you on that (Hatton not a welterweight, truly) but it's Floyd's skill level, not his size that allows him to be competitive against bigger guys as it is with all/most fighters of a certain Class and that's the reason Hatton has a good chance of beating Pac (skill level is pretty close).

You're right, having the same arm length as Wladimir Klitschko (26") doesn't help him in the slightest.

[TheManchine]

the way some people talk about Hatton on this forum u would think he had ****d their sister or something

im not a massive fan but i feel sorry for him because of the sheer amount of people that hate him

you got banned cracka, must have been for posting a thread that didnt belong in NSB or maybe the raping part of this post,

either way we wont be seeing you

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It's just curious to me because this could have been an even bigger event at 140 where Hatton was something significant as opposed to 147 where he was a non-entity.

You think so? i think there's something special about the classic weights. Especially 135, 147 and 160. There's such a sense of history there.

Even JCC/Pea was at WW.

[2501 v2.0]

Since both fighters are non American, wonder if Pacquiao would even entertain the thought of having the fight @ Wimbeldon or whatever venue they have in Brittanica.

[The Gambler1981]

Since both fighters are non American, wonder if Pacquiao would even entertain the thought of having the fight @ Wimbeldon or whatever venue they have in Brittanica.

If they want to do that they should just fight in Dubai and get paid an insane ammount of cash.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Since both fighters are non American, wonder if Pacquiao would even entertain the thought of having the fight @ Wimbeldon or whatever venue they have in Brittanica.

It needs to be in the US. That 3 a.m. **** is garbage.