Looking back at Hatton's preformances after the Tszyu win....

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #51
    Originally posted by !! $¡N
    You can call me whatever you want, but I'll never be beneath a British piece of trash like yourself...
    u are a blatent glory hunter son how could anybody take u seriously lol

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      #52
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      In all honesty, it was the 140 championship where neither guy had to bother making weight. That's all it was.

      Hatton isn't a WW...and Floyd is even less so.
      I don't look at it like that all really, since there are weight classes and they serve a purpose. With that logic, Taylor-Pavlik II was the middleweight championship without having to make weight. Different kind of fight.

      The same with Corrales-Castillo II, making weight was not an issue to Castillo, atleast.

      Floyd had proven to be more of a welterweight by beating Zab Judah, who was a former welterweight champion, Carlos Baldomir who was the reigning champion at the time, and then even going up in weight to 154 to beat ODLH.

      Hatton's only welterweight fight of consequence was with Luis Collazo. In that fight, this happened:

      (credit to mspiegelo)

      To say Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton is inaccurate.

      If Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton, is Hatton also more of a junior middleweight than Mayweather?

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        #53
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        So many things came together...

        personality clash
        Floyd's trash talk at the first presser
        24/7
        white/black
        USA/UK
        clash of fight styles
        etc...

        Floyd was very lucky to have Hatton.
        It's hard to dispute that it made for a pretty interesting event.

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        • ufirst
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          #54
          Ricky can win

          back on topic, I'd say Hatton has more than a chance... Ricky's mostly struggled with guys sho walk around at the same weight he does, 160 (Collazo) or who can out-skill him (Mayweather). he's naturally heavier than Pac (Ricky will prolly come in around 148 on fight night), just as hard a puncher (it remains to be seen if Pac will carry his speed & power up to 140+), is really aggressive and works the body as well as roughs up his man quite a bit. Pac is a tough s.o.b., is quick and can punch but I'm really interested in seeing how he responds to the bigger guy's wrestling & mauling over the course of the fight. Should be a good one; that is if Paulie doesn't outslick Ricky in their bout...

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            #55
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            I don't look at it like that all really, since there are weight classes and they serve a purpose. With that logic, Taylor-Pavlik II was the middleweight championship without having to make weight. Different kind of fight.

            The same with Corrales-Castillo II, making weight was not an issue to Castillo, atleast.

            Floyd had proven to be more of a welterweight by beating Zab Judah, who was a former welterweight champion, Carlos Baldomir who was the reigning champion at the time, and then even going up in weight to 154 to beat ODLH.

            Hatton's only welterweight fight of consequence was with Luis Collazo. In that fight, this happened:

            (credit to mspiegelo)

            To say Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton is inaccurate.

            If Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton, is Hatton also more of a junior middleweight than Mayweather?
            In all fairness mate the weight on the night says what the fight was at , Hatton was the same as he was weight wise againt Castillo and Floyd weighed the same as Hatton with no more than a pd between them , Floyd had no advantages in size here .

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              #56
              Originally posted by Asian Sensation
              I don't look at it like that all really, since there are weight classes and they serve a purpose. With that logic, Taylor-Pavlik II was the middleweight championship without having to make weight. Different kind of fight.

              The same with Corrales-Castillo II, making weight was not an issue to Castillo, atleast.

              Floyd had proven to be more of a welterweight by beating Zab Judah, who was a former welterweight champion, Carlos Baldomir who was the reigning champion at the time, and then even going up in weight to 154 to beat ODLH.

              Hatton's only welterweight fight of consequence was with Luis Collazo. In that fight, this happened:

              (credit to mspiegelo)

              To say Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton is inaccurate.

              If Mayweather is less of a welterweight than Hatton, is Hatton also more of a junior middleweight than Mayweather?
              would like to point out that Mayweather weighed only 150 for that ODLH fight. He, didn't even make the limit. If you come in on fight night for a welterweight fight at 147, you're a junior welter. sorry.

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                #57
                Originally posted by !! $¡N
                I'm sure the Brits want to forget it now because their very best was humiliated once again. The fact is this was one of the most anticipated fights in all of boxing for years. It was only delayed because of Hatton's shameless ducking. He knew this was a fight he just would not win, so he milked the Brits for every pound he could by fighting a string of bums until he finally decided to cash out with the Mayweather fight...
                This is a wind up surely? That or you seriously lack a brain.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by RodBarker
                  In all fairness mate the weight on the night says what the fight was at , Hatton was the same as he was weight wise againt Castillo and Floyd weighed the same as Hatton with no more than a pd between them , Floyd had no advantages in size here .
                  Oh yeah, I don't think there was a size disparity. Some fighters just aren't the same when they move up, even if it's only a few pounds. Like Paulie Ayala, who was a pretty decent 122-pounder but when he moved up to 126 to fight other former junior-featherweights like Barrera and Morales he got the living crap beat out of him.

                  Ricky Hatton wasn't the same fighter at 147 that he was at 140, and the record speaks for itself really.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    In all fairness mate the weight on the night says what the fight was at , Hatton was the same as he was weight wise againt Castillo and Floyd weighed the same as Hatton with no more than a pd between them , Floyd had no advantages in size here .
                    Nope just 6" in each arm and about 2" in height, combined with a speed advantage and not being anywhere near as weight drained as Hatton, who came down from about 180. Add in the obvious skill advantage, much, much better defense, and Floyd should've been at least a 10 to 1 favorite.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ufirst
                      would like to point out that Mayweather weighed only 150 for that ODLH fight. He, didn't even make the limit. If you come in on fight night for a welterweight fight at 147, you're a junior welter. sorry.
                      Still, if you are fighting for a junior welterweight championship, it should be fought at 140 pounds. That's how I look at it.

                      To me if you fight in the division for a title, thats the division you're in. Mayweather showed that he could be competitive with welterweights and beat them. He was a welterweight.

                      I've never been convinced that Hatton was a true welterweight.

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