I really like and respect Cotto but I just dont think he will be the same after that

[The Surgeon]

I agree with what you said about cINTRON..

Cotto whoops Floyd....

Cotto would Tear into Cintron like he did against Big Punchers Like Pinto and Judah, work his body and KO the ****er!

BUT honestly Cintron has a punchers chance with that Right but luckily its not a shot Cotto is prone to getting tagged with

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

I agree with what you said about cINTRON..

Cotto whoops Floyd....

I think Mayweather's conditioning strength and his accuracy are underestimated as fight finishing qualities.

The more vulnerable his opponent becomes, the more damage he does with his shots.

He's a slightly underrated finisher. And as ruthless in his own way as a lot of fighters who are considered the badasses.


Cotto does not whoop Floyd.

I ain't even sure you really believe that.

[da_beast]

Crillz ur a quality poster but im gonna have to repecfully disagree here, Marg took Cotto's best shots and plenty of them he just dont appear to be hurtable in this division at this point so i dont think its wise for Cotto who we know can be hurt to stand there with him, even tho he'd land more shots and better shots he'd get stopped. The body shots would help slow Tony down but as Cotto said himself the openings just werent there.
I think he was great in there and the only adjustments id make would be to have him tie Tony up from time to time, stifleing his attack and getting a breather for himself while also running the clock out a bit because thats what it came down to, Miguel was winning but even early on u got the sense he wished it was over. Also LESS emphasis on power, u aint gonna hurt the guy so just rack up the points with fast sharp shots, Finally id have him stay off the ropes more if he could, tho im sure that part be easier said than done.

Agreed. i have read lots of his posts and many of them have been excellent. but that is 100% the wrong gameplan against margarito. Its suicide. Out box him, use thje jab, move in circles and as you said rack up the point and clinch when he is flurying. Thats the only chance cotto has

[OTSS]

People are acting like Cotto is the new Meldrick Taylor. He got his ass kicked but he didnt take this brutal ass beating that he cant recover from. He obviously wasnt ready for the kind of war the fight was gonna be. He's a tough man and he'll be back. If we watch his next fight and hes a completely different fighter I'll eat my words but I seriously doubt thats the case.

[-Antonio-]

I honestly believe Cotto can come back strong, I don't think he will be phased in the least bit. Cotto was winning against Margarito so it isn't like his style coming in to the fight wasn't good he just lacked a body offense, he didn't make it hard for Tony to go rounds because he never assaulted the body, the fight never took a toll on Tony because he was fighting a patient and well calculated fightand really didn't have to do much of anything accept throw punches while Cotto was expending all kinds of energy in constant movement and backing away.

he was supposed to trade in the middle of the ring with Tony using his better skills to bob and weave and fend off against punches all while landing his own, he punched back at Tony but it wasn't enough to do damage, it was the body Cotto was supposed to be attacking and he didn't. factor all that into the only time Cotto actually took massive, fight ending punishment WAS on the ropes so all he had to do was stay off them, plant his feet and bring out the Cotto who came in against Quintana, aggressive and relentless regardless of opponent.

I think the magnitude, the media, the money and fame and all these things finally took it's toll. they were hyping this as fight of the year and both guys wanted to come in tip top shape, I'm not saying Cotto wasn't in shape, he was probably the healthiest he's ever been but that all means nothing if he's waisting it with unnecessary motions and movement. the way to beat Tony is to **** away, **** with him and just out score him, he's a guaranteed blood fest fighter so you just better be the guy to draw the blood first. I think these are all mistakes that Cotto can fix and perservere past.

guys like Cotto don't go down easy, he didn't quit neither he just simply didn't argue, his corner stopped it and he was in no position to complain because in the end the fight still would have been stopped and he would have just looked like a sore loser crying, he trusts his team. I don't think he quit though because had his corner not stepped up and let it continue Miguel would have kept fighting as hard as he could, quitters don't get up and they certainly don't wait until they look like how Cotto looked to quit the fight.. plain and simple I just think Cotto needs to dig deep and bring back the the body assault. thats how you beat Tony, speed and body shots and Cotto has that but he failed to excercise them, a mistake that cost him a lot but in turn gave him something to prove now. I don't think guys like Cotto fold under pressure and he will bounce back strong. 100

You're on point here, Crillz. I dont even think the lack of body work was as much of an issue as the lack of clinching was. Instead of wasting so much movement, he should have clinched inside, waited for a break, then moved. It burns time, it saves energy. It's a valuable tool when used right, as Floyd showed against Hatton.

Overall it was his lack of inside work that hurt him. He was effective off the ropes early, but it's hard having to slip punches and counter effectively for a whole fight. Instead of tucking his head and begging for uppercuts, he should have locked on, and fired some body punches, similar to what Malignaggi was doing to him, and what Hatton does to everybody.

[The Surgeon]

People are acting like Cotto is the new Meldrick Taylor. He got his ass kicked but he didnt take this brutal ass beating that he cant recover from. He obviously wasnt ready for the kind of war the fight was gonna be. He's a tough man and he'll be back. If we watch his next fight and hes a completely different fighter I'll eat my words but I seriously doubt thats the case.

HEY, OFF TOPIC BUT U WANNA BET 3k ON KATSIDIS OVER DIAZ?

[RL_GMA]

I aint hoping for it... read my thread title..

Im saying he QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that has more effect on you then getting KTFO....

BOXING IS 75% mental, no?

But what's the relevance? The biggest deal was that Cotto got his "0" taken away from him. He took a knee because he was taking way too much punishment. But that's boxing man. Some of the best fighters in the world have bit the bullet one point in their career and have gone on to have great careers.
You're making it seem like Cotto's loss to Margarito is going to affect him for the rest of his career while not looking at the possibility that Cotto can come back better than before now that he's got something to prove.

[C'MONMANG']

I think Mayweather's conditioning strength and his accuracy are underestimated as fight finishing qualities.

The more vulnerable his opponent becomes, the more damage he does with his shots.

He's a slightly underrated finisher. And as ruthless in his own way as a lot of fighters who are considered the badasses.


Cotto does not whoop Floyd.

I ain't even sure you really believe that.

I believe it.. Floyd ever fought anyone as well rounded as Cotto? that wasnt semi retired or past his pime. Cotto pre MArgo whoops Floyd..mnaybe post Margo too, if he didnt lose anything that night.

[OTSS]

HEY, OFF TOPIC BUT U WANNA BET 3k ON KATSIDIS OVER DIAZ?

Hell yeah, sig it & good luck.

[C'MONMANG']

But what's the relevance? The biggest deal was that Cotto got his "0" taken away from him. He took a knee because he was taking way too much punishment. But that's boxing man. Some of the best fighters in the world have bit the bullet one point in their career and have gone on to have great careers.
You're making it seem like Cotto's loss to Margarito is going to affect him for the rest of his career while not looking at the possibility that Cotto can come back better than before now that he's got something to prove.

I hope he does come back better then before. But when most people QUIT..without getting stopped, then they usually dont..