I really like and respect Cotto but I just dont think he will be the same after that

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  • Derranged
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    #31
    That remains to be seen. It wouldnt be the first time something like this happened though.

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    • Shalafi
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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I was watching the fight again last night and a couple things stuck out to me. This fight reminds me of Hagler-Mugabi A LOT.

      No, I don't think Cotto will be the same- he took some hellacious shots while tired. That can damage you pretty badly.

      And, another thing...I don't know if Margarito will be the same either. Mugabi was ruined after Hagler but the Marvelous one wasn't quite the same either. And I wonder if Margarito who, took quite a few shots as well (along with taking quite a few throughout his career) can maintain those heights. Such a shame since this isn't even his prime. Too bad the elite didn't want to fight him then.
      You know what, that also crossed my mind, Tony did take some monster shots from Cotto, I think that's the most punishment I've seen him take in a fight. However if you think about it Tony has never really been in many wars, the most mileage he has was probably early on his career since he started out so young and was taking punishment from bigger and stronger fighters, but down the stretch on his career he has never been beaten down so I don't think your logic can be applied here, no disrespect, but you know what I'm saying?

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      • williamhvx1
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        #33
        Originally posted by shalafi
        you Know What, That Also Crossed My Mind, Tony Did Take Some Monster Shots From Cotto, I Think That's The Most Punishment I've Seen Him Take In A Fight. However If You Think About It Tony Has Never Really Been In Many Wars, The Most Mileage He Has Was Probably Early On His Career Since He Started Out So Young And Was Taking Punishment From Bigger And Stronger Fighters, But Down The Stretch On His Career He Has Never Been Beaten Down So I Don't Think Your Logic Can Be Applied Here, No Disrespect, But You Know What I'm Saying?
        Yup Ur Signatures Are A Perfect Example Look How Small Is Eyes Are In Top Compare To The Bottom Pic.. I Cant Wait To See Margarito Again For Sure!!!!

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        • mellow_mood
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          #34
          i would love to see marg agains mayorga!

          ps.. reguarding cottos not being the same... i think he took a knee at the right time... anyway we will gonna have to wait and see...
          Last edited by mellow_mood; 08-14-2008, 11:34 AM.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #35
            Originally posted by Shalafi
            You know what, that also crossed my mind, Tony did take some monster shots from Cotto, I think that's the most punishment I've seen him take in a fight. However if you think about it Tony has never really been in many wars, the most mileage he has was probably early on his career since he started out so young and was taking punishment from bigger and stronger fighters, but down the stretch on his career he has never been beaten down so I don't think your logic can be applied here, no disrespect, but you know what I'm saying?
            I have about 20 Margarito fights on DVD. He's been in quite a few grueling bouts, including the Santos and Perez bouts. In fact, I thought he was slipping against Clottey but that might have been ring rust.

            Either way, all it takes is one war to take a lil off your fastball. We'll see how he looks next time up. Hopefully he'll get some proper rest before that.

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            • RL_GMA
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              #36
              Originally posted by C'MONMANG'
              beat down. Judah and Shane should ask for rematches, quik..

              Remember when freitas quit against Chico.. he just wasnt the same after.

              I dunno it just seems more mental then physical....
              I don't understand where you get your logic from.

              It wasn't like Cotto was laid out in a coma like most Margarito fans are making it seem. He approached Tony twice in the ring after the fight and congratulated him and went on his way fine.

              Maybe that's what you're hoping for, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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              • C'MONMANG'
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                #37
                Originally posted by RL_GMA
                I don't understand where you get your logic from.

                It wasn't like Cotto was laid out in a coma like most Margarito fans are making it seem. He approached Tony twice in the ring after the fight and congratulated him and went on his way fine.

                Maybe that's what you're hoping for, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
                I aint hoping for it... read my thread title..

                Im saying he QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                that has more effect on you then getting KTFO....

                BOXING IS 75% mental, no?

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                • Sweet Pea 50
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I was watching the fight again last night and a couple things stuck out to me. This fight reminds me of Hagler-Mugabi A LOT.

                  No, I don't think Cotto will be the same- he took some hellacious shots while tired. That can damage you pretty badly.

                  And, another thing...I don't know if Margarito will be the same either. Mugabi was ruined after Hagler but the Marvelous one wasn't quite the same either. And I wonder if Margarito who, took quite a few shots as well (along with taking quite a few throughout his career) can maintain those heights. Such a shame since this isn't even his prime. Too bad the elite didn't want to fight him then.
                  Good Post, sir....

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                  • crillz
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                    #39
                    I honestly believe Cotto can come back strong, I don't think he will be phased in the least bit. Cotto was winning against Margarito so it isn't like his style coming in to the fight wasn't good he just lacked a body offense, he didn't make it hard for Tony to go rounds because he never assaulted the body, the fight never took a toll on Tony because he was fighting a patient and well calculated fightand really didn't have to do much of anything accept throw punches while Cotto was expending all kinds of energy in constant movement and backing away.

                    he was supposed to trade in the middle of the ring with Tony using his better skills to bob and weave and fend off against punches all while landing his own, he punched back at Tony but it wasn't enough to do damage, it was the body Cotto was supposed to be attacking and he didn't. factor all that into the only time Cotto actually took massive, fight ending punishment WAS on the ropes so all he had to do was stay off them, plant his feet and bring out the Cotto who came in against Quintana, aggressive and relentless regardless of opponent.

                    I think the magnitude, the media, the money and fame and all these things finally took it's toll. they were hyping this as fight of the year and both guys wanted to come in tip top shape, I'm not saying Cotto wasn't in shape, he was probably the healthiest he's ever been but that all means nothing if he's waisting it with unnecessary motions and movement. the way to beat Tony is to **** away, **** with him and just out score him, he's a guaranteed blood fest fighter so you just better be the guy to draw the blood first. I think these are all mistakes that Cotto can fix and perservere past.

                    guys like Cotto don't go down easy, he didn't quit neither he just simply didn't argue, his corner stopped it and he was in no position to complain because in the end the fight still would have been stopped and he would have just looked like a sore loser crying, he trusts his team. I don't think he quit though because had his corner not stepped up and let it continue Miguel would have kept fighting as hard as he could, quitters don't get up and they certainly don't wait until they look like how Cotto looked to quit the fight.. plain and simple I just think Cotto needs to dig deep and bring back the the body assault. thats how you beat Tony, speed and body shots and Cotto has that but he failed to excercise them, a mistake that cost him a lot but in turn gave him something to prove now. I don't think guys like Cotto fold under pressure and he will bounce back strong. 100

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                    • alexdcolon
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                      #40
                      Not only will Cotto be back. He will be better! I'm not saying this because I'm a fan, I'm saying this because Cotto already has said and done some things that would make me believe this. When a fighter losses he comes to a crossroad. Cotto already has chosen the right path by making no excuses in his loss and wanting to fight again before the end of the year,.....and not against a bum. Minor tweaks in his game and he would even beat Margarito in a rematch.

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