De La Hoya Says Pacquiao Not Worth More Than Floyd

[Boofdatruth]

Lol, funny you should say this, because him and I are pretty much on the same page. This just shows your hypocrisy.

He told the truth, you lied.

[Boofdatruth]

I have no doubt it was Beristans fault. He did a lousy job handling both JMM and Rafeal's careers from this buisness end. But in the end, responsibility has to fall on JMM's shoulders because Beristan was his guy out front being allowed to call the shots for team Marquez. Boof clearly and plainly tried to make it sound as if Pacquiao was at fault for the rematch not taking place sooner, which is obviously not the case. That was my whole point from the word go. If he doesn't like a fighter he'll make lies up to slander that fighter. Just like if he doesn't like a poster he'll make up lies to slander that poster. Its just his way. Has been for the past 8 or 9 years I've posted with him.

You couldn't wait to get this off your chest lol. You ask people to email you to tell them about me. You have issues. Nobody wants to hear about your complex that you have about me. You lied on Marquez name. You said Marquez "instead" chose the fight with John, and that is a lie. Jab, I'm tired of catching you in lies. You do this for attention. You are 52, and kid minded. Grow up. You can talk about Beristan, read articles about him and Marquez, but you don't box, so you don't know the real story. If J.M.M was unhappy with Beristan, he would've got rid of him. Raf too. So take your misguided lies and opinion and talk about what Cotto is going to do when he comes back. You still haven't put up your Aol Avy of Floyd lol.

[edgarg]

Thats true. Pac doesent have the U.S. following like Mayweather.

I personally don't think that Mayweather had much of a following at all. To have a "following" that means that the "followers" are enthusiastic supporters, drooling over your every move and slick piece of crap. This was not the way with Mayweather at all. He nearly always "stank out the house" with every fight, and couldn't even half fill the arena in his home town.

It wasn't until he was gratuitously given the position of @1 lb4lb- which he didn't do anything to deserve, [[considering his (for a #1 lb4lb) many substandard opponents[[- that people began to come to his fights.

LOOK at his last 4 fights, which were against his BEST opponents. RICKY HATTON, undersized and lacking in skill, who KO'd himself by ramming his head into a ring post. AND...it took 10 rounds for that. OSCAR DE LA HOYA, an over age, rusty, long past his best good fighter who, many think, actually should have got the decision, or at least a draw. CARLOS BALDOMIR... there's nothing really to sayabout Carlos, with 9 losses, who only got his exalted position by beating a discouraged and lazy Zab Judah. He didn't so much beat him as that Zab gave it to him.

AND....ZAB JUDAH, the most easily discouraged fighter in the ring today, who lasted 11 rounds. All the rest of his opponents were B-or C fighters.....except for Castillo #1 where most believed that Castillo had won.

Except for Baldomir, it was his opponents who drew the crowds. And of course people were hoping that he'd get beaten. This does NOT thanslate into "followers"........Not in MY opinion.

One problem he had....and has...is that he forgot why his handlers picked the nickname "Pretty Boy" for him. He began to think it was because of his appearance and good looks, when, you only need to look at him to know differently. It was because he was named "Floyd". The FAMOUS "Pretty Buy" was "Pretty Boy" CHARLIE ARTHUR FLOYD, the infamous bank-holdup gangster of the early and middle 1930's, PUBLIC ENEMY #1, who got a grip on the American imagination during the depression. Every pulp magazine had a story patterned after Pretty Boy Floyd or John Dillinger.

I'm glad Mayweather is retired, and has stopped throwing thousands of dollars from casino balconies. There';s only a certain amount of ignorance and vulgarity we can stand in our sporting figures, and he reached it a long time ago. Just my opinion.

[SkillspayBills]

Floyd only got 30%? Wow I didn't know that one. Manny should take the split if that's the case because you KNOW this fight won't be bigger than that one.

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Pacquiao vs Soto? Thats great news!!!!!

[anonymousboxing]

You let me know when you come across an article that Floyd ducked Margs and Cotto. When you come across that article, let me know. I can't find that "Margs won't rematch Williams article", so if you do come across an article saying Floyd ducked fighters, post it.

Boof,
It's no secret that Floyd refused to fight Marg for 8 million. That's old news. On regards to Cotto, that's another topic.
You have to admit though, even Floyd states he has his own limitations. His hands are getting pretty bad, and flat out doesn't want boxing to "retire" him.

What are you trying to argue? That Floyd DID fight all the best welterweights?

As a fan of his, and even IF you don't believe he ever dodged anyone, wouldn't you want to see him in with Marg or Cotto?

[ml2niceguy]

just do a 65-35 split...quit being greedy oscar

[OTSS]

I personally don't think that Mayweather had much of a following at all. To have a "following" that means that the "followers" are enthusiastic supporters, drooling over your every move and slick piece of crap. This was not the way with Mayweather at all. He nearly always "stank out the house" with every fight, and couldn't even half fill the arena in his home town.

It wasn't until he was gratuitously given the position of @1 lb4lb- which he didn't do anything to deserve, [[considering his (for a #1 lb4lb) many substandard opponents[[- that people began to come to his fights.

LOOK at his last 4 fights, which were against his BEST opponents. RICKY HATTON, undersized and lacking in skill, who KO'd himself by ramming his head into a ring post. AND...it took 10 rounds for that. OSCAR DE LA HOYA, an over age, rusty, long past his best good fighter who, many think, actually should have got the decision, or at least a draw. CARLOS BALDOMIR... there's nothing really to sayabout Carlos, with 9 losses, who only got his exalted position by beating a discouraged and lazy Zab Judah. He didn't so much beat him as that Zab gave it to him.

AND....ZAB JUDAH, the most easily discouraged fighter in the ring today, who lasted 11 rounds. All the rest of his opponents were B-or C fighters.....except for Castillo #1 where most believed that Castillo had won.

Except for Baldomir, it was his opponents who drew the crowds. And of course people were hoping that he'd get beaten. This does NOT thanslate into "followers"........Not in MY opinion.

One problem he had....and has...is that he forgot why his handlers picked the nickname "Pretty Boy" for him. He began to think it was because of his appearance and good looks, when, you only need to look at him to know differently. It was because he was named "Floyd". The FAMOUS "Pretty Buy" was "Pretty Boy" CHARLIE ARTHUR FLOYD, the infamous bank-holdup gangster of the early and middle 1930's, PUBLIC ENEMY #1, who got a grip on the American imagination during the depression. Every pulp magazine had a story patterned after Pretty Boy Floyd or John Dillinger.

I'm glad Mayweather is retired, and has stopped throwing thousands of dollars from casino balconies. There';s only a certain amount of ignorance and vulgarity we can stand in our sporting figures, and he reached it a long time ago. Just my opinion.

Damn man you havent a ****in' clue do you? All you just spwed was propaganda and bull**** opinion. It's obvious you dont know **** about boxing and just hate Mayweather. Why don't all you and your ****-riding buddies go make your own forum to hate on that dude. You bitches come off like Mayweather was the ladys man and you were the scorned husbands. *****.

[Boofdatruth]

Boof,
It's no secret that Floyd refused to fight Marg for 8 million. That's old news. On regards to Cotto, that's another topic.
You have to admit though, even Floyd states he has his own limitations. His hands are getting pretty bad, and flat out doesn't want boxing to "retire" him.

What are you trying to argue? That Floyd DID fight all the best welterweights?

As a fan of his, and even IF you don't believe he ever dodged anyone, wouldn't you want to see him in with Marg or Cotto?

No, that isn't old news, that is an old lie. I'd love to see Floyd fight Margs. Cotto could've had the fight, but he wasn't ready. The amount wasn't even 8 mil offered to Floyd, but given to his people rather than Floyd himself. There isn't a fighter Floyd was supposed to fight at ww is my argument. There are fighters you can name at WW that he didn't fight, but he was the champ WHO MOVED UP to unify the tirles in these guys division. Floyd could've been forced to fight those guys many talk about had he, nor Baldy not been stripped or given up titles, but the sanctioning bodies gave away titles. Floyd was, and is not going to fight any Arum fighter as he said unless they break away from Arum because he will not put another dime in Arum's pockets. Margs fans choose to ignore this and ride the coward thing out lol. Comical. Cotto fighting for a ww title was ridiculous, and so was Cintron. Those sanctioning bodies paved the way to idiocracy.

[Boofdatruth]

Pacquiao vs Soto? Thats great news!!!!!

It's not great news to true fans. We want to see PAc-Valero.