Why do Calzaghe fans deny, lie and distort information.

[daggum]

Styles do make fights. Kessler as a fast boxer puncher with considerable power and a reasonable workrate was more dangerous than Hopkins who was a no-workrate spoiler who never looked likely to do enough to win over the high workrate Joe and had not KOd anyone for years.

but then kessler showed nothing against calzaghe and hopkins beat calzaghe. isn't it weird what happens when the fights actually take place. the strangest things happen.

[majestiC]

man have you two just got up or have u not been bed yet ?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I just stating Hopkins fought better fighters and come into beating better opposition that Kessler has.

Define what you mean by best win.

Significance of the victory = Hopkins - name value, in America, new weight

Tougher fight = Kessler - hurt Calzaghe, outboxed him for a few rounds, more power, more dangerous, younger.

Best Performance = Lacy

[ALT-Assassin]

So you think Mercado is better and a harder fight than Tarver, Wright, Oscar and Tito then?

*Waits while question is ignored and list of repeated crap is posted*

No,because at the time Tarver was ranked the number one Light-Heavy weight and also was on the P4P charts.Wright was also an accomplished fighter at Middle Weight and was on the P4P charts at the time.Oscar was coming off of a knockout win at Middleweight and was in his 5 or sixth weightclass.Tito was undefeated at the time and had a belt at Middle.Mercado was never as highly ranked as any of those fighters.Mercado may have been a tough fight but in no way was that his best win considering Mercado lost by a TKO in the rematch and retired at 19 fights and 10 losses.He never made anything of himself.

[daggum]

man have you two just got up or have u not been bed yet ?

the calzaghe bandwagon never sleeps. we keep on truckin converting the unbelievers one at a time.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No,because at the time Tarver was ranked the number one Light-Heavy weight and also was on the P4P charts.Wright was also an accomplished fighter at Middle Weight and was on the P4P charts at the time.Oscar was coming off of a knockout win at Middleweight and was in his 5 or sixth weightclass.Tito was undefeated at the time and had a belt at Middle.Mercado was never as highly ranked as any of those fighters.Mercado may have been a tough fight but in no way was that his best win considering Mercado lost by a TKO in the rematch and retired at 18 fights and 2 losses.He never made anything of himself.

So because a fight is closer on the cards, it doesnt mean it was "harder" and it doesnt make the opponent better than another opponent.

This thread is therefore pointless because thats his whole argument.

[majestiC]

the calzaghe bandwagon never sleeps. we keep on truckin converting the unbelievers one at a time.

**** you im on the David Haye bandwagon

[ALT-Assassin]

So because a fight is closer on the cards, it doesnt mean it was "harder" and it doesnt make the opponent better than another opponent.

This thread is therefore pointless because thats his whole argument.

Some people think that the Kessler fight harder due to him being in his prime and others think Hopkins tactics made the fight harder,so that is mainly opinion.I think we can all agree that Hopkins was by far the more accomplished fighter who had twenty defenses of his middleweight belt and was ranked the number one light-heavyweight campared to Kessler whoes best win is Mundine and was number two in the Supermiddleweight division.That is why I think Hopkins was his best win but hey,I don't hate you for thinking otherwise,I hate you because your British

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Some people think that the Kessler fight harder due to him being in his prime and others think Hopkins tactics made the fight harder,so that is mainly opinion.I think we can all agree that Hopkins was by far the more accomplished fighter who had twenty defenses of his middleweight belt and was ranked the number one light-heavyweight campared to Kessler whoes best win is Mundine and was number two in the Supermiddleweight division.That is why I think Hopkins was his best win but hey,I don't hate you for thinking otherwise,I hate you because your British

Like I said

Significance = Hopkins

Tougher = Kessler

I consider a tough fight one where a fighter is always in danger and has been hurt or rocked. Kessler was always dangerous and had the power to hurt Calzaghe.

Hopkins wasnt a tough fight, just frustrating. The only danger he represented was with his forehead in Joe's face.

[ALT-Assassin]

Like I said

Significance = Hopkins

Tougher = Kessler

I consider a tough fight one where a fighter is always in danger and has been hurt or rocked. Kessler was always dangerous and had the power to hurt Calzaghe.

Hopkins wasnt a tough fight, just frustrating. The only danger he represented was with his forehead in Joe's face.

I think Hopkins right rand was a bit dangerous in the early rounds especially the first.Kessler is known as a puncher,yet he hit Calzaghe with his best uppercut and only buzzed him.Hopkins on the other hand threw a perfect right hand that Calzaghe walked into and that floored him.Another agrument that could be made is that Kesslers style is more suited for Calzaghe while Hopkins is more like Bika and likes to use rough house tactics which caused Calzaghe problems in his fight with him.