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    #71
    Originally posted by checkmania
    Yes and just because you control the ring doesn't mean much in the whole aspect of winning a fight. If I am stalking you down but missing, how am I winning a round? Im not, Cotto may of been getting backed down but especially from the start he was rocking Marg while Marg missed a lot. But from the judges site all they see is Marg pressing, throwing a lot, and making Cotto bloody.
    But the thing is Margs wasnt missing as much as some people think. He was landing inside body shots and some other good shots, but Cotto would throw a little jab, snap Margs head back, and the flashy points went to Cotto, when in reality Margs won the exchange.

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    • Foodie One
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      #72
      I was surprised to see Cotto allowing Marg to dictate the fight. Marg was battling for respect and he got it. Oh well, it's history now.

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        #73
        Just tell me this....
        Look at 1:55 of the second round...... Who won that exchange?

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          #74
          Originally posted by checkmania
          Yes and just because you control the ring doesn't mean much in the whole aspect of winning a fight. If I am stalking you down but missing, how am I winning a round? Im not, Cotto may of been getting backed down but especially from the start he was rocking Marg while Marg missed a lot. But from the judges site all they see is Marg pressing, throwing a lot, and making Cotto bloody.

          To counter that, watching it from home that night and again the next day and once again the following day, of yeah and SAt. night and Sunday night, I think that it was Cotto who was controlling the ring for the first 6 rounds. Even in the 8th or the 9th, he did the same. Where as watching it from ringside you continue to see Marg. come forwards pressing the fight yes, but not really being effective in the first 6.

          Now after Marg got to him in round 7, he was done. The body shots were too much and in turn, he was suceptible to those great Marg uppercuts. Miguel from this point on was running, not longer controlling the fight, nor the ring. Just because a fighter backs up, doesn't mean he isnt in control. And throughout the early rounds, he was doing just that!!

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            #75
            Originally posted by HTownTexan
            But the thing is Margs wasnt missing as much as some people think. He was landing inside body shots and some other good shots, but Cotto would throw a little jab, snap Margs head back, and the flashy points went to Cotto, when in reality Margs won the exchange.

            Marg made Cott's shots look like they were all little flickering shots. His head would snap back yes, but he was able to walk right through them. This deceived people in thinking that it was Marg really landing the better shots. In actuallity and IMO Cotto just couldnt take a shot the same way Margarito was able to and this really clouded people's judgement of who was winning some of these rounds. Again this all comes down to opinion, and mine is no more right then yours. But again we have a damn good conversationg stemming from these points...


            Also I think Kellerman made reference to this fact during the broadcast, that Marg was just able to absorb these shots so much better then Cotto was, and this could def. be a reason why we continue to have this discussion today!!

            Keep it up people

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              #76
              Originally posted by HTownTexan
              But the thing is Margs wasnt missing as much as some people think. He was landing inside body shots and some other good shots, but Cotto would throw a little jab, snap Margs head back, and the flashy points went to Cotto, when in reality Margs won the exchange.
              Many exchanges ended with Marg not even hitting Cotto and Cotto moving away. Toward the end of the fight, Marg was getting the better of Cotto, but the first half of the fight was Cotto winning the exchanges or for that matter, unanswered combos.

              Most of Margarito's punches were landed towards the latter part of the fight. If you honestly think that Margarito was winning most of the exchanges early in the fight, I really dont know what fight you were watching.

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                #77
                Originally posted by DanielTurcotte3
                Marg made Cott's shots look like they were all little flickering shots. His head would snap back yes, but he was able to walk right through them. This deceived people in thinking that it was Marg really landing the better shots. In actuallity and IMO Cotto just couldnt take a shot the same way Margarito was able to and this really clouded people's judgement of who was winning some of these rounds. Again this all comes down to opinion, and mine is no more right then yours. But again we have a damn good conversationg stemming from these points...


                Also I think Kellerman made reference to this fact during the broadcast, that Marg was just able to absorb these shots so much better then Cotto was, and this could def. be a reason why we continue to have this discussion today!!

                Keep it up people
                If you have the fight watch the second round at 1:55 and tell me who you think won that exchange. this will explain alot about you and I and others score fights.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by machotime
                  Many exchanges ended with Marg not even hitting Cotto and Cotto moving away. Toward the end of the fight, Marg was getting the better of Cotto, but the first half of the fight was Cotto winning the exchanges or for that matter, unanswered combos.

                  Most of Margarito's punches were landed towards the latter part of the fight. If you honestly think that Margarito was winning most of the exchanges early in the fight, I really dont know what fight you were watching.
                  I am not saying that he won most of them, but what I am saying is that Cotto was not DOMINATING the fight. I had it 6-4 Margs. When I say this people say that I am biased, but I just dont see Cotto dominating.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by machotime
                    Many exchanges ended with Marg not even hitting Cotto and Cotto moving away. Toward the end of the fight, Marg was getting the better of Cotto, but the first half of the fight was Cotto winning the exchanges or for that matter, unanswered combos.

                    Most of Margarito's punches were landed towards the latter part of the fight. If you honestly think that Margarito was winning most of the exchanges early in the fight, I really dont know what fight you were watching.
                    Watch 1:55 of round 2...
                    who won this exchange?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by HTownTexan
                      Watch 1:55 of round 2...
                      who won this exchange?
                      I cant watch it till I get home, but that being said from what I remember I gave Marg that round on that exchange alone. Very close round, but MArg was able to get to Cotto during the middle portion of the round!!

                      Again I will watch the fight again tonight and let you guys know how i scored it this time.....

                      And H I will def. give you some moer insight in this point of the fight during round 2....

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