how can Joe Calzaghe achieve P4P 1 status before retiring

[TheGreatAli]

To answer your question, he is already P4p #1 on my list.

Beating Diaz means nothing seeing as Pacquiao lost by a good 1-2 points against Marquez.

[RightHandLead]

But who does it say it about? The old guys or the young guys. I think its a bit of both.

Most definitely. I think it's a positive/negative thing. Positive for the old vets who still compete on such a high level, and negative for the young guns because as long as they vets stay around, their fame will be negated to a certain extent.

[IMDAZED]

Most definitely. I think it's a positive/negative thing. Positive for the old vets who still compete on such a high level, and negative for the young guns because as long as they vets stay around, their fame will be negated to a certain extent.

It's always been like this, for better or worse.

[Super welsh Joe]

To answer your question, he is already P4p #1 on my list.

Beating Diaz means nothing seeing as Pacquiao lost by a good 1-2 points against Marquez.

i agree Diaz is no biggy

[Dan...]

Super Welsh Joe, whose alt are you? Another Ricky one?

[dfwtx]

move up to hw and 1st round tko wlad then drop to bantam and take on vazquez and marquez. then he gets p4p # 1 status undisputed

[TheGreatAli]

Calzaghe's combined record (amateur and pro) is 167-7 and he's undefeated in 20 years, all of his amateur losses were SD too. So he's never been decisively beaten.

[RightHandLead]

Calzaghe's combined record (amateur and pro) is 167-7 and he's undefeated in 20 years, all of his amateur losses were SD too. So he's never been decisively beaten.

Neither has Bernard Hopkins.

[Kris Silver]

Neither has Bernard Hopkins.

Roy Jones UD which even he admits was a comprehensive loss.

Taylor by SD then UD.

Calzaghe by SD which most saw as UD.



None were tremendously huge but often aren't. But I'd say they were comprehensive, clear wins.

[RightHandLead]

Roy Jones UD which even he admits was a comprehensive loss.

Taylor by SD then UD.

Calzaghe by SD which most saw as UD.



None were tremendously huge but often aren't. But I'd say they were comprehensive, clear wins.

Jones 7 rounds to 5, I don't quite consider that "comprehensive" or "clear".

The first Taylor fight nearly everybody agreed that Hopkins won. The second one, was a very close decision loss.

Against Calzaghe, myself and many othe rposters here had it 114-113, for Hopkins. As did Adalaide Byrd, Dan Rafael, Brian Kenny, ESPN, and the Associated Press.