Mayweather NEVER GAVE A (****) about the WW divison. BUT the WW division needed him 2

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Floyd is no smaller than than Cotto, Mosely, Judah or Clottey. Jones was almost always the shorter, slighter fighter at 175.
As far as how long it took him to clear it out.....what does that matter? He cleared it out, thats all that matters.

Bull****.

Cotto, Mosley, Judah and Clottey all have thicker frames than Floyd.
He's a margin taller than Cotto but there is a clear difference in thickness of frame.

If you don't take that into account when estimating his achievements --- you're an idiot.


Whatever. Floyd-Cotto could have happened if Cotto had kept his run up.

He didn't.

Suck it.

[starjammer]

So you don't think Roy Jones Jr.'s achievement of winning a heavyweight title is meaningful?

Because he didn't beat Klitschko or Lewis?

You want actual miracles too now?



If you don't think world titles @ super-featherweight to middleweight would be a meaningful achievement --- I don't know what to say to you.

Of course its meaningful in the sense of a man gaining weight to fight a bigger man. But as you said, he did not fight Klitschko or Lewis. He picked on the easiest HW and thats fine! If and only if its considered a nice win, a sort of spectacle. Not the kind of thing that should secure a legacy.

But Roy would be different to Floyd, he immediatly went back down and fought the BEST at his best weight, sum1 who had been calling him out for a long time.

Going up a weight to fight someone else for one of the four HW belts (or MW belts) is a novelty, when compared to the honour and glory of beating TOP opposition in your range of weight class. Floyd still has a lot of work to do in the WW division in my opinion.

I am an objective boxing fan, and I'm telling it how I see it. Floyd's given me some great TV and I respect his great wins. But retirement or novelty fights leaves a bad taste, especially in this WW boom.

[Vasyl’s dad]

First off, those weren't my words. Second, its a fact that he didn't face the best fighters at welter, even after he told one of them he would. Nothing you can say will change this.

They sure are trying though.


I'm more rational though. I use actual facts.

They use woulda, coulda and shouldas.

[Horus]

Somebody Name 5 fighters in the WW division before Floyd got there?

The two division Floyd cared most about was 130 and 135... the two division in which he dominated and nobody wanted to fight him..
Also the two divisions where he was a natural fit.

Why do you think People Call Floyd Mayweather The Greatest 135 Pounder
(super featherweight)that ever fought.!

(just because....?)

The Welther weight Division is

Cotto's: 2nd Division
Margarito's: 2nd Division
Shane Mosley: 3rd Division
Zab Juduh: 2nd Division
Andre Berto: 2nd Divison
Joshua Clottey: 2nd Division
Kermit Cintron: 1st Division
Paul Williams:2nd Division
Carlos Quintana:1st Division

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: 4th Division

What does that information tell you If you are not a stone cold bias person?


The Answer is That Floyd Maywether did not belong and did not care about the WW division.....He only Pass through that division to get to De La Hoya..
The people in the WW division now. Belong there. and some cant even hack it in any other division.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Bull****.

Cotto, Mosley, Judah and Clottey all have thicker frames than Floyd.
He's a margin taller than Cotto but there is a clear difference in thickness of frame.

If you don't take that into account when estimating his achievements --- you're an idiot.


Whatever. Floyd-Cotto could have happened if Cotto had kept his run up.

He didn't.

Suck it.

Boxing matches are arranged at a contracted weight, not by who has the "thicker frame".


If you can't fight the best at the weight you fight in, you're not the best period.

[JAB5239]

140-certainly wasn't Corley, Brusseles or Gatti.
147-certainly wasn't Baldomir, Judah, or Hatton
154-certainly wasn't De La Hoya.

No 154 was DLH. But that doesn't change the fact that he was a part time fighter who most will agree was past his best. That said, it doesn't mean he shouldn't have to beat anyone else before moving on to a title shot in another division (this goes for 140 and 147). Styles make fights and nobody knows what style will win till a fight actually happens. No fighter should be given a free pass time and again and called the best. You have to continually prove yourself.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I want to have Floyds baby.

True story.

[Horus]

Somebody Name 5 fighters in the WW division before Floyd got there?

The two division Floyd cared most about was 130 and 135... the two division in which he dominated and nobody wanted to fight him..
Also the two divisions where he was a natural fit.

Why do you think People Call Floyd Mayweather The Greatest 135 Pounder
(super featherweight)that ever fought.!

(just because....?)

The Welther weight Division is

Cotto's: 2nd Division
Margarito's: 2nd Division
Shane Mosley: 3rd Division
Zab Juduh: 2nd Division
Andre Berto: 2nd Divison
Joshua Clottey: 2nd Division
Kermit Cintron: 1st Division
Paul Williams:2nd Division
Carlos Quintana:1st Division

FLOYD MAYWEATHER: 4th Division

Why do you think People Call Floyd Mayweather The Greatest 135 Pounder
(super featherweight)that ever fought.!

130: Floyd's 1st Division
135: Floyd's 2nd Division (G.O.A.T) in that Division
140: Floyd 3rd Division
147: Floyd's 4th Division
154: Floyd's 5th Division

What does that information tell you If you are not a stone cold bias person?


The Answer is That Floyd Maywether did not belong and did not care about the WW division.....He only Pass through that division to get to De La Hoya..
The people in the WW division now. Belong there. and some cant even hack it in any other division.

Name 3 Champions Cotto,Margarito,Williams,Berto,Clottey,Judah
could beat at MiddleWeight.

Middleweight would all be their 4th Division except for Williams.

Margarito: HELL NO
Cotto: HELL NO
Judah: HELL NO
Berto: HELL NO
Clottey: HELL NO
Williams: Maybe

[JAB5239]

Bull****.

Cotto, Mosley, Judah and Clottey all have thicker frames than Floyd.
He's a margin taller than Cotto but there is a clear difference in thickness of frame.

If you don't take that into account when estimating his achievements --- you're an idiot.

You're the only idiot here. You are trying to say who is thicker and who isn't when Floyd won't even get in the ring with them. Not that it matters. He fights at 147, he should want to fight the best. AND he didn't.

Whatever. Floyd-Cotto could have happened if Cotto had kept his run up.

He didn't.

Suck it.

More excuses. Why don't you give us a good one on why he won't fight Margarito?

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Floyd is a broing fighter to watch other then the fact you want to see him get his butt whooped. To the average fan who is not very knowledgeable the art of boxing and moving and trying to lure someone in is not apparent. he is content with winning but not winning in a spectacular fashion. Hatton said it best there was more action in his 3 round fight then in Floyd past 4 fight period. He muffed De la hoya and held repeatedly. He ran from hatton and held although he did knock him out he still didn't exchange with him. 1-2 1-2 mopve step rollhis shoulder it is like watching a mini B Hop. Everyone can't stand watching B hop he is a very boring fighter the division opened up after he lost his title to Taylor. Now the big thing is can pavlik KO a 44 Yr old B Hop? Answer is do you really care? Floyd is great he has tremendous skills but if he was going to retire much to the likes of De la hoya he should have at least gave us the opportunity to see him fight one of the two best before he di. i really could have cared less to see Oscar fight him again if they were both going to fight in the same fashion. i rather see him fight Mosely or Cotto if he really has balls fight margarito. he wont do that he is satisfied with all his millions and his pound 4 pound title in tact and run away. he is a coward in my book.